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1 in 4 U.S. teachers are chronically absent

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by YankeeFan, Oct 29, 2016.

  1. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Because he isn't just limiting the firing to bad teachers and the ones who don't show up for work. YF has demonstrated time and again that he does not care if good teachers are fired along with bad as long as teachers are getting fired. He didn't back down on that stance on this thread. He doubled down.

    I wrote that firing people just for the sake of making a change is not good enough. YF responded that it is good enough. He wrote, "Doing nothing instills a culture of failure and complacency." So it is absolutely fair to extrapolate that it is fine if good teachers get fired because we need to do something to avoid complacency. That sure sounds as if he is advocating firing people to motivate those left behind.
     
  2. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    I questioned you on your position and you once again demonstrated that you don't care about protecting good teachers while firing bad ones. You need a clear definition of teachers who don't consistently show up for work. That is a vague statement.

    The article you posted is very unclear and also raises questions about the study, but you ignore those issues. Am I dragging your posting history into this discussion? Yes, I am. And that is absolutely fair for me to do.
     
  3. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    You would scream if somebody threw such a small sample size at you and considered it to be a valid argument.
     
  4. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    At my previous job you got 5 sick days a year. But you had to use them as sick days. Couldn't schedule. Could bank them. If you didn't use any you might get a sticker. You were a sucker if you didn't take them. Most in the newsroom were suckers.
     
  5. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Kids miss too many days, they fail the class. It's their own version of sick time rules.
     
  6. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    See my above response to JC. Kids also have attendance rules.
     
  7. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    As an added note, I looked up my oldest kid's school's attendance policy. They're allowed to miss 15 percent of classes without failing (27 out of 180 days). They can get those missed days reduced if they make up the work and tests.

    Good thing YF wasn't in charge, though. He'd have them expelled after 10 days.
     
  8. Jake_Taylor

    Jake_Taylor Well-Known Member

    Depends on where you are and what you are growing.
     
  9. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Nah. I'd be looking to revoke parental rights.
     
  10. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    And put them in orphanages too, right?
     
  11. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Duh.
     
  12. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    You still have to pay people to teach those music, art and phys ed. classes, which is the larger reason why they are being cut. And you would have to do it while a large number of other expenses are rising for school districts.

    Tell us how you are going to pay teachers for more classroom time because their contracts call for 10 months out of the year. You also have to pay to keep the buildings running. You have to pay for more supplies. You have to pay for two more months of building staff.

    You also have logistical issues. Suddenly summer school is no longer an option for students who fail classes, so you have more students being held back. Building maintenance becomes an issue without summer months to address problems without students in the building. These are just a few of the potential issues.

    These are among the reasons that most legitimate proposals of year-round schooling do not work the way you suggested. The cost is a serious issue.
     
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