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Trump cheats at golf - the ONE and ONLY politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by SnarkShark, Jan 22, 2016.

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  1. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Been awhile since I've been around there. (Last family member moved out of the area four years ago.) So you might be right.

    But in Madison, that could as easily be the Bernie Bros holding their breath as it could be any conservative groundswell.
     
  2. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    I think I mentioned earlier that I've spent the morning talking my older kids -- 22 and 19 -- down from the ledge. For my middle one, this was his first election, which brought to mind my first one. The morning after Reagan's mop-up of Carter, I was convinced that I'd not live to see 25, that a nuclear war was all but inevitable. Four years later, my then-girlfriend (now my wife) and I turned off the election coverage in disgust as our certainty of Reagan's repudiation turned to dust.

    As I've made my way through this vale of tears, only rarely have my worst fears come to pass. And those occasions when that's happened -- just like the happiest moments of my life -- have been about as far removed from politics as you can get.
     
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  3. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    This puzzles me. I see a lot of this today. But you can't draw that line with the popular vote.

    California and New York are the two most populous states. She won 60 percent in each, and beat him by a combined 4 million votes.

    But each campaign spent zero percent of its time in either state aside from private fundraisers. Meanwhile, Karl Rove's super PAC spent $32 million trying to turn New Hampshire and its total voting base of 700,000 people. They didn't get there, fell 1,000 votes short, but the 5,000 swing votes they were aiming for in New Hampshire were more valuable than the 3,900,000 extra votes they would have needed in New York and California.

    If we go to a popular vote, you'd see the big blue states get a lot less blue. And that would mean about 2 million more votes (at least) on his side. But with no benefit to cutting the gap from 60-40 to 55-45, this system will always distort the popular vote.
     
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  4. cjericho

    cjericho Well-Known Member

    CNN has 289-218. Is my under 300 bet still alive?
     
  5. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    California and Texas are the two most populous states. New York is fourth, after Florida.
     
  6. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Ah. My bad.

    Numbers prove out, though.
     
  7. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Citing the popular vote is just a political message, which the Dems are kind of short on right now. Trump won by the rules, but talking about getting more votes is a way of saying, "hey, we should have a seat at the table, too." After all, it's how all other elections work, and people know it. Bush-Gore was close in every way. This is shaping up for Clinton to win the popular vote by more than did Gore, while losing the electoral vote by much more. The fact that this has happened twice in five elections indicates it's a structural problem, not a fluke, BTW.
     
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  8. Captain_Kirk

    Captain_Kirk Well-Known Member

    Dow up 210 points.

    Hope people weren't placing market open short sells in the wee hours this morning.
     
  9. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    I woke up this morning thinking about how little I knew my country.

    It is now clear that nobody knows a damn thing about it. Except Trump. He was right all along.
     
  10. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    I'm slowly backing away from the "all gonna die" ledge. Very slowly
     
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  11. exmediahack

    exmediahack Well-Known Member

    One thing I won't miss about covering HRC.

    Her lack of punctuality.

    We had a 1-on-1 interview with her about a year ago in the lobby of a hotel. Staff demanded we show up 60 minutes before the interview at 8:30 am on a Saturday morning in our city.

    She had a fundraiser the night before.

    Our reporter and photographer get there at 7:30. Mrs. Clinton emerges at 9:25 for the ten minute interview in the hotel lobby.

    The same hotel that she had stayed at.

    Time after time, she was never on time. That always tweaked me. Watching her take the oath at sunset on January 20th would have been something different.
     
  12. exmediahack

    exmediahack Well-Known Member

    Perhaps the markets are up over the talk that Amy Schumer is leaving the country.
     
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