Trump cheats at golf - the ONE and ONLY politics thread

Good to see some people are honest about that shit. Town I lived in at the time was pretty heavily liberal, many were convinced Reagan was going to start a nuclear war. Few years later, most forget saying that.

 

Husband was famously the same way.

 

I'm not too confident they do, beyond maybe some tax credits which will get erased by insurance premium increases. They want their Mission Accomplished moment of getting rid of it, and they're not planning for anything beyond that. Especially for a group whose philosophy has long been "You're on your own."

 

Oh I know. I once waited 3 hours to shake his hand in 1992. Yet Bill was often one meeting anyone and everyone he would encounter. Retail politics.

Queen Hillary wasn't shaking random hands.

 

Reagan didn't look or sound like a guy who'd blow up the world. And he wasn't. But he was also an experienced politician, a two-term governor of the country's largest state. Until he fell ill, he knew what he wanted and how to try and get it.
Trump has never held office, has been erratic throughout the campaign, and has displayed shocking ignorance of how the government and presidency actually work. Those are the traits that frighten more than his views and hateful rhetoric. We've put a blindfolded man at the steering wheel.

 

Careful. CNN has him at 290 now but still hasn't called Michigan, where Trump has a razor-thin lead.

 

As a conservative, I don't want the ACA to get blown up. Redone... yes. But we can't just take away health insurance for millions on Day One.

Perhaps Trump could put Sebelius in charge of the ACA's dismantling. It'll still be going through 2019, she can be the scapegoat and everyone wins.

 

And on the flip side, looking back, you could surmise that Trump got in the presidential race almost as a lark, with little real expectation of doing anything more than stirring the pot and making a few points, not being a career politician. And then, he starts to get some wins within the party, and it's ok, let's keep riding this out. Then, the nomination comes his way, and in the course of the campaign, he says things you'd never heard any other politician come close to saying before -- that make you think he's trying to lose it on purpose and has no real interest in actually assuming the presidential role.

And then despite all that, we arrive at today.

So, we end up with the candidate who thought there was no way they could lose getting beaten for the highest office in the land by the candidate who may not have really cared or expected to win.

I'm guessing history will look back on the day we experienced yesterday in a rather interesting way several decades ahead.

 

Absolutely. Bill was a tremendous campaigner, and he loved that part of the job more than anything. Hillary is the exact opposite. She hates campaigning and is awful at it.

 

There are some things that are very popular about the ACA that I don't know if people have really thought through the consequences of getting rid of: Elimination of per-existing condition disqualifiers, staying on parents' insurance until 26 among others. There is for sure some problems associated with it that needs to be fixed. I just hope the GOP doesn't turn eliminating Obamacare into a giant hedonistic circle jerk where only after sufficiently spraying the public down in a sticky substance do they realize not everyone was participating in the orgy.

 

Reminds me of the scene from "Band of Brothers" where they liberate the concentration camp, and then still have to keep all of the people locked up there to nurse them back to health.
It's a shit burger. But get it done.

 

I think you're wrong about Trump. I believe he cared a lot and fully expected to win. He certainly wasn't saying stuff in an attempt to lose. He was just firing from the hip like he always has.