Trump cheats at golf - the ONE and ONLY politics thread

The mandate to purchase isn't needed nearly as much if you remove those with preexisting conditions. Expunging that patient population could be part of a repeal, but is it politically palatable? It's a Frankensteined Jenga tower, for sure, chock full of half-measures and feeble compromise. Unless a repeal is "everything goes back to the way it was,"- which was almost universally agreed to be in need of change to affect cost containment - some of the benefits of the ACA (theoretical or actual) would have to remain. They can alienate insurance companies (not likely), keep healthcare costs rising (possible) or alienate the previously uninsured (well within their right but a yooge eff-you).

 

At my polling place we had the choice. When I walked in, the electronic machines were rebooting, so rather than wait I went with the paper ballot. In retrospect, I'm glad I did, because that made it very easy to skip over races that: A) weren't really races because there was only one candidate; and B) I had no interest in.

 

LOL.

 

As the pre-existing conditions is the hurdle, I kind of wonder if a simple law mandating coverage for pre-existing conditions -- and letting the companies price it into their own large pools -- is the way to go. I mean, if we're fighting this much over that one part of it, maybe it wasn't worth a complete overhaul.

Who the fuck is typing this?

 

Disagree a little about the democrats' local influence. Only speaking for NJ, but the biggest cities are completely dominated by democrats for years. Newark, Trenton, Jersey City, Paterson all have democrats for mayor and the council almost always is completely democrat. Dems also have had influence in this state, the gun control laws in NJ are among the toughest in the nation. It is nearly impossible for a civilian to get a permit to carry. Although in many NJ cities, there are still a lot of crimes committed with guns.

 

Yes and no.

There hasn't been a big new government program yet that didn't come out of the box with plenty of bugs and God knows the ACA was no exception. But (1) the Supreme Court blessed roughly half the state governments who actively crippled a key lynchpin (Medicaid expansion) and (2) it was impossible to fix it because the opposition party believed in death before dishonor, which it defined as anything which might cast the tiniest bit of positive publicity on the nation's first black president.

The very grossest result of this year is that the GOP's gaslighting worked. How many people voted for Obama (many twice) but then became disillusioned and sat this election out because "he didn't get enough done"? Thirty minutes of studying a national circulation newspaper or critically watching an objective newscast was all you needed to see that his enemies were committing political vandalism to spite him. And instead the vandals got rewarded with a growing share of power in Congress and the states leading to yesterday, when they ran riot.

 

All paper in my county. Ballots are scanned counted, though, when you cast your vote.

 

Fellow conservative feeling the same way. Voted for Johnson but ready to roll up my sleeves. Look, I'm sympathetic to the cause and I agree pre-existing and age 26 are two very popular provisions. But everything else basically has to go or be revamped.

Tort reform. Insurance across state lines. Free-market principles. Maybe a chance for more full-time jobs in this country. Whatever has to be done has to work better than what's out there now.

And I will say I didn't vote for Obama in 2008 or 2012, but it has been refreshing having a family with eight years that have been scandal-free.

 

Republican crowds have already made it roaringly clear their attitude toward the uninsured is "let 'em die."

If you have a preexisting condition now, you're on your fucking own.

Over 55 with a PEC?

Guess what:
You Will Never Get Health Coverage Again In Your Life.

I hope all the 60-plus fatfucks in their MAGA hats were thinking about that before they pulled the lever.

 

Bay Area taking it well.

Thousands of East Bay students walk out following Trump election

 

Tort reform, wait for it. Don't think the American Trial Lawyers Association will be on board.