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Trump cheats at golf - the ONE and ONLY politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by SnarkShark, Jan 22, 2016.

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  1. cjericho

    cjericho Well-Known Member

    That is odd, guess depends on where and maybe the election workers being slow. Have a few cousins and friends who voted in JC, longest wait was 40 min. That would be odd for Republicans to suppress the vote there. It's usually 80% democrat and even if they kept some people away in JC, Trump had no chance of winning NJ.
     
  2. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    Won't matter -- Obama will pardon her before he leaves office.
     
  3. HanSenSE

    HanSenSE Well-Known Member

  4. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    Then Team Trump will indict her on something else. Obama can't pardon her for "any crime you may have committed during your life."
     
  5. Just the facts ma am

    Just the facts ma am Well-Known Member

    In his acceptance speech Trump praised Hillary for her years of government service so he is already backing off the "lock her up" rhetoric. He also promised to be a president for all Americans. Perhaps there is hope that Trump really is the social liberal that he appeared to be before planning to run for president. Perhaps his overt racism was an act to get votes, wishful thinking maybe, but it worked very well and after all he has black friends. We will see who he appoints as Attorney General. Lord knows Obama was not a aggressive punisher of a police misconduct, how worse could Trump be? Obama because he was black, could not reign in the DEA on pot. With the state referendums that passed and because he is white, Trump can.

    I never understood liberal support for illegal immigration. It seems like a black and white issue to me. And of course there is no need to build a wall, just fine and jail employers who hire them and currently report their phony SSN's to the IRS with no consequences.

    Creating disincentives for employers to take jobs out of the county, who can complain about that? Trade wars, no way the Republicans will let him get away with that, LOL.

    Huge tax cuts for the rich is of course a bad idea, but he contrarily said he knows how the tax system is gamed so he can fix it. Doing away with loopholes for the rich in exchange for the removal of the inheritance tax and/or a flat tax rate for all seems like a fair trade off.

    Forcing people to buy health insurance against their will is not fair, he has not come up an alternative plan but politically you just can't snatch back insurance from people who have it now. We will see what happens. Now that there is no longer a black person behind it, a lot of white people will like low cost health insurance. Anyone remember Medicare Part D, which Bush pushed through? Like Obamacare this was another give away to insurance companies that also helped a lot of people. Medicare Part D also had a shaky start but is now run pretty smoothly by the Social Security Administration (SSA) and the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS).

    Other than the advancing the LGBT agenda, corporate Obama is more or less the same as corporate Bush. Anyway Trump has always been an a LGBT advocate including during the campaign.

    School vouchers/charter schools , Democrats have always been on the wrong side of that, black people love them. He was also right about Democrats inability to address inner city crime. If it was black on white or white on white crime, there would be more done. For example national guard call ups and check points at major intersections like they do when there are riots.

    Doing away with environmental regulations, meh I don't have a rationalization for that.

    Rebuilding the infrastructure and using that to create jobs. Hooray for the new New Deal. He hasn't explained how he will pay for it but if we spend trillions of dollars interfering in middle-eastern tribal wars overseas, perhaps we can wind that down and put the money to better use.

    Making our allies pay their share for our defence costs, again where is the argument against this.
     
    Last edited: Nov 10, 2016
  6. HanSenSE

    HanSenSE Well-Known Member

  7. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    JTFM, you have some logic in your post, but it is a bit of wishful thinking, hoping that we get a reasonable version of Trump, not the one we've seen throughout this campaign and his years in public life.

    You also boiled down education to one line, and that line was an assumption that is far from truth. Neither Democrats nor Republicans are completely wrong about education. Neither is right, either. That is one reason we keep seeing seismic shifts in educational philosophy every few years, which ends up just making educators shift directions over and over again. Vouchers, for example, create their own set of problems and risks. Getting rid of Common Core, another Trump promise, is not necessarily the answer. In most cases, Common Core itself wasn't the problem. It was the piss-poor way it was executed. Simply getting rid of it just lowers the bar for education and forces educators to shift directions yet again.
     
  8. Vombatus

    Vombatus Well-Known Member

  9. Vombatus

    Vombatus Well-Known Member

    No, and discussing OT is taboo. Not sure if he will be back or not. If anyone has a way to reach him in real life (PMs to him are currently disabled), please let me know by PM because I personally would like to hear from him and his opinion on what has happened. Sure, he can be an ass, a major ass, but there are plenty of them on all sides of lots of issues here, and I'd like to hear his opinion from far rightfield.
     
  10. Vombatus

    Vombatus Well-Known Member

    The way to do this is keep the investigation alive, but leave her alone and go after the 20+ senior staffers and IT folks who knowingly broke the rules on information handling. They all need their clearances revoked. Her former staff goes down, and she'll be guilty by inference.
     
  11. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    I hope OT is safe and warm and dry and able to find peace in life for things that run much deeper than election returns. Other than that I have no interest in the matter and am happy to leave it that way.
     
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  12. Deskgrunt50

    Deskgrunt50 Well-Known Member

    She lost. Let it go.
     
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