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Trump cheats at golf - the ONE and ONLY politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by SnarkShark, Jan 22, 2016.

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  1. FileNotFound

    FileNotFound Well-Known Member

    I still don't understand why our problem is "illegal immigration" and not "employers who hire illegal immigrants and pay them below-market or sub-minimum wage." If they couldn't find work, they wouldn't be here. See what happens politically when, instead of demonizing brown people just trying to help their families, we demonize small-business owners who benefit from the work of undocumented immigrants.
     
  2. dirtybird

    dirtybird Well-Known Member

    "Give me your tired, your poor,
    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

    It's almost like some people think America is a land of opportunity and that many of our ancestors came as immigrants. And if this was about the "illegal" part and not the immigrant part, I'd be hearing little about turning away refugees.
     
  3. dirtybird

    dirtybird Well-Known Member

    If we did that second part, we wouldn't have a safe word for demonizing brown people. We'd also get to pay more for construction. And that would also make us mad.
     
  4. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    When you look at the vote totals, is it reasonable to say that Trump beat Clinton because his side had the better ground game?

    Did the media, @RickStain, and I just buy into a narrative that Clinton's ground game would be better, without any evidence to support it?

    And even some of his Republican critics were grudgingly acknowledging the impact of a decision by Priebus — which drew criticism at the time — to redirect spending away from TV ads and to ground operations.

    The RNC’s get-out-the-vote infrastructure was by far the most robust in the party’s history, consisting of 315 field offices staffed by 7,600 paid employees and fellows who knocked on 24 million doors and logged 26 million phone calls. Without the RNC operation, Trump’s ground game would have been dwarfed by that of his Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton, since his campaign invested relatively little in field staff.

    For instance, as of the beginning of September, Trump’s campaign had only one field office in the pivotal state of Florida versus Clinton’s 51. The RNC, by contrast, by Election Day had 62 offices and 1,173 paid staff and organizers in the Sunshine State, which Trump narrowly carried.

     
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  5. DanielSimpsonDay

    DanielSimpsonDay Well-Known Member

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  6. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Clinton campaign assumed that if they won urban areas by a wide margin, rural areas couldn't make up the difference in places like PA, MI, and WI.

    But the urban vote -- except in Philadelphia -- wasn't as big as they expected, and the rural vote was huge, and more Republican than in 2012.

     
  7. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    In states where it's an issue, none of us want that.

    We just did a major home remodel. I don't know if we would have been able to swing it otherwise. So, that's $100K not circulating through the economy. On a large scale, that kind of enforcement would cause recession.

    Sen. McCain had a guest worker program as part of his proposal many years ago that would address what you're saying. It would be so easy. Then he became presidential candidate McCain and fuck that.
     
  8. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

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  9. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    LOL. Obama purposefully declined the role of Leader of the Free World, thinking the world would be better off without our leadership.

     
  10. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    Well, 1789, but your point is well taken.
     
  11. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

  12. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    I have to admit it cracks me up that the same people who were mocking conservatives for crying "the sky is falling" and worrying it would mean the end of the nation when Obama was elected are the ones crying "the sky is falling" and worrying it will mean the end of our nation now.

    Both are wrong.
     
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