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Trump cheats at golf - the ONE and ONLY politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by SnarkShark, Jan 22, 2016.

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  1. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Clinton got 60,000 fewer votes in Milwaukee County than Obama did in 2012. Trump won the state by 27,000 votes.

    Analyst: Lower Voter Turnout in Milwaukee Contributed to Trump's Wisconsin Victory
     
    LongTimeListener, Nov 10, 2016
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  2. DanielSimpsonDay

    DanielSimpsonDay Well-Known Member

    Surrounding himself with establishment Republicans...bringing aboard Wall Street bigwigs...no Muslim ban...

    What's next, no WALL? No instant recovery of jobs from Cghinur?
     
    DanielSimpsonDay, Nov 10, 2016
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  3. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    Those "stresses" are understood and factored into the drafting (and negotiation) of legislation, which is why more often than not adverse consequences don't materialize when the laws are put into effect.
     
    cranberry, Nov 10, 2016
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  4. gingerbread

    gingerbread Well-Known Member

    gingerbread, Nov 10, 2016
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  5. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Shit, you can get day laborers at Home Depot to put up a fence.
     
    LongTimeListener, Nov 10, 2016
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  6. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    It's very simple. Just like spinning straw into gold.

    Explain to me how a price floor (what a minimum wage set above the price equilibrium is) doesn't create a shortage when demand is elastic -- in this case putting the supply of low-skilled labor beyond the demand for it:

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    While you're at it, disprove one of the laws of physics with meaningless rhetoric.

    The reality of minimum wage laws is that they sell people bullshit. The REAL minimum wage is actually $0. As in the people who once had jobs, who are left unemployed because of the your meddling.
     
    The Big Ragu, Nov 10, 2016
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  7. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    Yes, Ragu, there's demand for cheap, exploited labor, but as a society we have outlawed that practice to the benefit of our poorest workers. Our objective is not to establish a free market for labor.
     
    cranberry, Nov 10, 2016
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  8. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    No more of that boo hoo SJW bullshit. You want better wages, go out and get them.
     
    Starman, Nov 10, 2016
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  9. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    That is about 80 steps back from your "everyone wins" post. People who had full-time jobs end up in part-time jobs or with no job, struggle to an even degree as a result of those laws. Consumers are hurt by their choices being limited, because of the clueless impact you have on the economic landscape. That isn't just rhetoric with scary words thrown in, such as "exploited," to appeal to emotions.

    Yeah, as a society, we have passed various price-fixing schemes -- labor markets, included. Until the people hurt (these things have real impact beyond the doctrine) by the meddling in their lives turn to someone else peddling them a different line of BS.

    Wash, rinse, repeat.
     
    The Big Ragu, Nov 10, 2016
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  10. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    Except, people are on the aggregate are not being hurt by well-considered minimum wage laws. That's just a silly scare tactic that's used by the opposition.

    So far, the Seattle minimum-wage increase is doing what it’s supposed to do
     
    cranberry, Nov 10, 2016
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  11. DanielSimpsonDay

    DanielSimpsonDay Well-Known Member

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  12. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    TheSportsPredictor, Nov 10, 2016
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