Trump cheats at golf - the ONE and ONLY politics thread

Placing the loss on any one thing is reductive.

Nobody in middle America was "disenfranchised." their votes actually count extra.

 

In an election like the one we just had, where one side had more popular votes than the other, but loses in the EC, the injured party usually screams bloody murder for a week or so, then forget about it for four years. Really, is the side that won via the EC vote going to give it up?

 

Regardless of the party platform, Trump did not run an anti-gay campaign. He spoke out in favor of restroom freedom of choice and waved a rainbow flag at a rally.

Trump did run an openly racist campaign e.g. birtherism, David Duke who?, etc. I don't believe he has any real friends being a sociopath, but he did like to pal around with narcissistic black celebrities including Al Sharpton a professional race baiter. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/22/us/politics/donald-trump-african-americans.html
He blunted black turnout somewhat with the "what do the blacks have to lose" card. So if he was just a pretend racist his strategy was very effective meaning he is either an idiot savant or very clever.

Hillary should have flipped the script on him by putting out ads to the effect: "Trump claims to be a man who represents the working class who have been ignored by the elites and is not part of the liberal establishment. His record shows these are his true friends":



Rather than having black celebrities at her rally she should have found a few liberal county singers (Dixie Chicks?) to come on stage saying she supports the second amendment and rejects all gun restrictions against law abiding Americans but wants to find better ways to keep guns out of the hands of radicalized terrorists and the mentally ill.

 

The GOP could have requested a recount based on those numbers. Hell, depending on the new rules we write, it might be automatic.

I return also to my point from yesterday: The GOP gave up on states with huge populations (California, Illinois, New York). If there were a benefit to making it 55-45 instead of 60-40, they would have been there and they would have gotten it. In California, Orange County went blue for the first time. You think that happens if those votes matter as part of an overall popular vote?

I think a realignment of the votes would be in order so states like Alaska and Montana don't have such an outsized influence. But the EC isn't going anywhere.

 

Orange County is trending bluer for demographic reasons

 

Thanks for proving my point.

 

It's getting a little bluer, but it's still mostly white, Asian -- and rich.

It would not be blue if the GOP gave a fig about California. There are millions of votes here and in the other big states that they would pick up again immediately if it mattered.

 

The point isn't that this specific election should be reversed.

The point is that we have a broad spectrum of rules, some new and some centuries old, all pointing toward the same effect: white people's votes count more

 

So there was no organized gay bashing anywhere in America for the last eight years?

 

Yeah. Accounting for each senator in the electoral vote gives way too much influence to sparsely populated states. I think the last time I saw it, you get to almost (or maybe over 100 EVs) by adding up the populations of the lowest states until they equal California (55 EVs).

But that ain't changing either.

 

brief off topic detour:

"Mr. Trump’s rise in the contest for the Republican presidential nomination — which has also prompted accusations that he is using racially charged language and has drawn comparisons to the segregationist George Wallace" -NYT

George Wallace was accused of using racially charged language? I though he was a flat out, balls to the wall, proud and out, person in power, who believed black people were an inferior class of human and should be denied the same rights as white people.

 

By the supporters of the presidential candidates or supporters of the president? No. Kind of an important difference. Trump has normalized their anger, their hate.