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So, McCain got 31% of the Hispanic vote.

Romney got 27%.

Trump 29%.

Here's What Happened with the Latino Vote

I was close. He did reverse a downward trend.

 

The ultimate in hypocritical douchbaggery is all these Republicans suddenly jumping atop their soapboxes and bleating, "We must all put aside our differences now, come together and work in unison for the good of the American people."

 

There's one guy I know of through my old newspaper friends who was a Facebook friend. He's been mentioned around here w.r.t. his social media ravings costing him his job. I had him (and several others across the spectrum) on ignore just because I get way worn out with it.* But seeing as how he's definitely of the more unhinged variety -- he's the kind of dipshit who posts those "Christians are so stupid they don't even know they're really worshiping the Egyptian god Horus" memes -- I thought it'd be amusing to see what he was posting. I wasn't going to say anything; not my style. Was just curious. But sometime between Wednesday morning (when I was still a friend) and this morning, he de-friended me.


*Over the years I've de-friended only one person: An arch-conservative type who was my very liberal bro-in-law's college roommate for awhile. The two of them were going back-and-forth over something and the conservative guy directed a pretty shitty comment about leg-tingling (a la Chris Matthews) to my bro-in-law, who has M.S. that has essentially cost him a leg. This was no innocent remark, as his follow-up comments made abundantly clear.

 

Missouri passed a voter ID law on Tuesday. To, you know, combat the rampant voter fraud sweeping the state.

 

I've seen quite a few posts on Facebook from lifelong friends who will proclaim "If you voted for Trump, I'll just de-friend you". I tend to remember similar sentiment during the same-sex marriage ruling, oh, 18 months ago (?) when Facebook got really angry for a weekend.

I've found the CNN exit polling a fascinating snapshot in the motivations of the voters.

You've probably seen them but here's the link:
2016 election results: National Exit polls

The economic elements, I find to be curious. Over $50,000/year in income broke for Trump slightly but under $50,000/year went for Clinton by about 10 points.

I do wonder about the distribution on income vs. where a person lives.
A household income of $75,000 goes a hell of a lot further in Kansas City, Des Moines or Peoria than it does in the almost any county that votes Democratic. I'd say that a family making $65k and living in Topeka has a far better financial standard of living than a family making $130k in San Diego.

I don't doubt there are racist, immature assholes behind these incidents that Ace describes. As a conservative, I shake my head and wish I feel embarrassed by them. Do liberals feel embarrassed by the violence in Oregon -- an area with so much material abundance and with Portland, which is about the whitest city in the country?

 

I read somewhere today that Wisconsin Democrats were baffled that she was running the ads about Trump mocking the disabled reporter and making misogynistic comments instead of ads that emphasized economic messaging. What a terrible campaign she ran, and I would have said that even had she pulled it out. She's not a convincing Democrat. God, maybe no woman can be.

I don't know how you stop being the party of Lena Dunham and cocktail parties in Georgetown. Gay and voting rights do need to be protected, as well. But the party's screaming for an LBJ type.

 

That's fascinating. Hmmm ... maybe Hispanics don't exactly love illegals, either.

 

Next up: cost-saving measures that close every place to obtain an ID in St Louis and certain targeted suburbs.

If they really want to vote they won't mind

 

In 2008, McCain won 4% of a large African-American vote:

Fully 96 percent of black voters supported Obama and constituted 13 percent of the electorate, a 2-percentage-point rise in their national turnout. As in past years, black women turned out at a higher rate than black men.

Exit polls: How Obama won


In 2012, a greater percentage of eligible African-American voters turned out than eligible white voters, and Obama won 93% of them:

According to CNN exit polls, 93% of African-Americans, 71% of Hispanics and 73% of Asians supported Obama over Romney.

Blacks outvoted whites in 2012, the first time on record


Trump won 8% of African-American votes, and the percentage of the electorate that was African-American dropped from 2012:

Some 88% of African-American voters supported Clinton, versus 8% for Donald Trump, as of very early Wednesday morning. While that's a large margin, it's not as big as Obama's victory over Mitt Romney in 2012. Obama locked up 93% of the black vote to Romney's 7%.

Some 12% of the electorate was African-American this year, compared to 13% four years ago.

How Hillary Clinton lost - CNNPolitics.com

 

Uh, put me down for the crappy standard of living in San Diego.

 

Old news.

 

That was a level of marketing ignorance on behalf of her advisers.

Spent a weekend in Wisconsin last month and, yes, the Clinton/Trump ads were the same national ones that kept running. Negative on both sides. Trump did touch on the economics in some of his ads, albeit not very specifically. Clinton's ads were the kids watching Trump say all of the offensive things but, after 7,549 airings, it loses its punch (initially, I thought it was a brilliant ad).

Clinton did not have ads that addressed the economics of the manufacturing class. Only "Trump is evil and we'll be stronger. Together."