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Trump cheats at golf - the ONE and ONLY politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by SnarkShark, Jan 22, 2016.

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  1. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    That's all true, but some other things, important things, have gotten way more expensive in that time. Higher education, which has gone from luxury to necessity, is the leading example, but health care and housing are in there, too. Since I live in Boston, I admit the last one is kid of skewed for me.
     
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  2. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I also think a ton of Republicans who were probably planning to vote for Gary Johnson for months decided to vote Trump as Election Day neared, as, first, he hadn't done anything stupid in a while and, second, the election seemed reasonably close.
     
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  3. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Because he likes to be liked. Look at how Obama went from "alien monster" to "great guy" in Trump's mind based on one meeting where Obama was gracious to him.
     
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  4. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    But big-ticket and far more necessary items -- a house, healthcare and college education -- cost a zillion percent more, though.

    ETA: I guess I am Michael Gee's ghostwriter.
     
  5. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    It is precisely because I'm not ignorant of history that I'm so internet angry
     
  6. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    And those are just the relatively small-ticket items.

    I owned two American-made cars (built in 1976 and 1980) and didn't get 100,000 miles out of either.

    Today, anything less than 300,000 is a disappointment. And the car is safer, too.

    When there is true competition, value goes up. Which is why health care and higher education do not cooperate.

    I think housing --- for the most part --- is very affordable (thanks in part to interest rates that people in the 70s and 80s would die for). People are just more mobile today and want to move to the "best" places. Well, they cost a zillion, because everybody wants to live there. Not because "housing prices" are a nationwide problem.
     
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  7. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    That won't last a month -- a week if they give him back his Twitter access.
     
  8. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Good points. All of those things have outpaced the general cost of living. I'd have to get exact numbers to figure out just how much in terms of "work hours." Just curious about whether people connect the dots. What do all of those things have in common over the time period we are talking about -- health care, housing and higher education?
     
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  9. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Trump spent a few years, all the way through the Republican primaries, living inside a far-right/alt-right bubble. He was like a teen-ager who fell in with the wrong crowd for a while. So he felt loved as he won state after state. My hope, and I don't think it's crazy, is that the general election forced him to confront the fact that a lot of Americans were very unhappy with his prior campaign tactics. Because he wants so badly to be all things to all people, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see him bend over backward to be conciliatory toward minorities. Probably not women, though. Fucking pigs.
     
  10. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    That's another thing. He's a different guy on Twitter than he is when he actually has to confront someone. He didn't go nearly both barrels with Hillary like he always pledged to once she was actually on the debate stage with him.

    God damn, I can't believe he won. That fucking guy.
     
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  11. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Oh, it plays out across a lot of facets of our lives. In my formative years my father worked about a job and a half -- a full-time job at Plant A and then a part-time job at Plant B -- but we were, I suppose, middle class. I don't recall any deprivation, but I recall plenty of angst over mis-placed coats and worn-out tires. It was a huge deal in our family when we got a clothes dryer (which actually facilitated my mother getting to go to college). Someone with air conditioning -- of any sort -- was the shit. A restaurant meal out was a HUGE treat. Every couple of years we might take a three- or four-day jaunt down to Myrtle Beach, but you could tell it made my parents nervous.

    Nowadays in that same place, similarly situated people are certainly farther behind the higher echelons in strictly financial terms. But they live lives of far greater abundance than we ever dreamed of.
     
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  12. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Another thing you have in common with Trump!
     
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