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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Look, it's real simple. Just about everybody on this board is white. The idea that white folks should have a big debate about race without input from people of color, men and women I might add, is the epitome of white privilege in action.
    It's a three step process. If people are denied their right to vote, or any other right, they will turn to mass protest. If those protests are met with violence from the authorities, there will be a violent response. And if that spiral goes on, it won't matter what rights we're arguing about, because nobody will have any.
     
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  2. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    We should probably talk a little bit about the whole idea that Trump didn't win, but Hillary lost.

    There's some truth to it. But, Trump did bring out new voters, and did flip voters who voted for Obama twice.

    Take Florida for example. Voting was higher than in 2012. Trump received more votes than Obama did in 2012 -- so did Hillary. We can't just say that Hillary's supporters didn't show up.

    And Trump flipped Pinellas, Jefferson, St. Lucie, and Monroe counties.

    The big difference in places like Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania isn't just that Clinton underperformed in Detroit and Milwaukee. Trump flipped counties, and he ran up his wins in rural counties to levels way beyond what Romney won by in 2012.
     
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  3. hondo

    hondo Well-Known Member

    Sure wish people were as just as concerned about anti-semitic remarks by Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.
     
  4. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    The fucking Washington Post. Holy shit.

    They sold sponsorship of their election night party, and had guests pluck napkins from a female server's dress.

    I can't wait until their next article about Trump's sexism and conflicts of interest.

    Washington Post staffers are expressing concern to top business-side executives at the company after guests at an election night party at the paper’s headquarters were encouraged to remove napkins from a female server’s body.

    “[The] napkin-wearing woman who was being disrobed by guests went beyond inappropriate to offensive to those those of us who resent seeing women continually being reduced to and offered as objects of men’s sexual desires,” read a Friday letter to Publisher Fred Ryan and Vice President for Communications & Events Kris Coratti.

    Post Articles Editor Elizabeth Chang sent the letter on behalf of around 150 male and female staffers. The Huffington Post obtained a copy from a Post source.

    The woman in question was wearing something underneath the napkin dress. But staffers were rankled by the concept, especially as misogyny and sexual harassment were major themes in the 2016 election.

    “The fact that this happened at a Washington Post party at the conclusion of an election in which the issue of sexual assault played a huge role is upsetting and infuriating and counter to what we thought The Post stood for in this election,” the letter read.

    The Post’s newsroom employees have little involvement in staging such events, which are primarily produced and overseen by the paper’s business side. The casino-themed Tuesday night event was sponsored by MGM, which is opening a new hotel next month in nearby National Harbor, Maryland.

    Washington Post Newsroom Rankled By ‘Offensive’ Election Night Party Stunt | The Huffington Post

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  5. hondo

    hondo Well-Known Member

    Saying "yeah" when someone else says your daughter is a piece of ass is a huge jump to the guy actually wanting to bang his daughter. Would I have punched the person who said it in front of me? Damn right. But just saying "yeah," doesn't mean he wanted to have sex with her. I think you're over-exaggerating just a touch.
     
  6. terrier

    terrier Well-Known Member

    Business side embarasses newsroom. As former Miami PD Det. Sonny Crockett would say, tell me something I don't already know.
     
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  7. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Just boys being boys, right?
     
  8. hondo

    hondo Well-Known Member

    So you get to make all these outrageous claims that, if true, certainly would have made it a much bigger issue during the election campaign, and then lash back when asked to back it up? You just lost every shred of credibility you thought you had.
     
  9. Riptide

    Riptide Well-Known Member

  10. hondo

    hondo Well-Known Member

    You saying it and then refusing to back it up with examples, doesn't make them "incontrovertible, indisputable facts." But you keep believing that. I voted for Hillary but even I think you're full of more shit than a Christmas turkey.
     
  11. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    The President seemed to compare and contrast his campaign vs. Hillary's in a way that was not flattering to her.

    We have to compete everywhere. We have to show up everywhere. We have to work at a grassroots level, something that's been a running thread in my career.

    I won Iowa not because the demographics dictated that I would win Iowa. It was because I spent 87 days going to every small town and fair and fish fry and BFW Hall, and there were some counties where I might have lost, but maybe I lost by 20 points instead of 50 points. There's some counties maybe I won, that people didn't expect, because people had a chance to see you and listen to you and get a sense of who you stood for and who you were fighting for.


    I can't wait until we see the Democratic Party's "autopsy" of the 2016 election.

     
  12. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Florida had the highest percentage overall turnout increase. People who live there know it's a close state in every election. Close races drive up turnout just as close games in any sport drive up ratings. I think the highest increase in percentage since WWII was the jump from Ike-Adlai 2 in '56 to Kennedy-Nixon in 1960.
     
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