President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

I've read only a few of his, usually when they've been pointed to by one or another economist I follow. But I have to respect anybody who keeps at the ready this bromide: "Doctors bury their mistakes, architects cover theirs with vines, [and] teachers send theirs into politics."

 

I definitely think Hillary lost because of fake news being used against her. But it has been used against her for 30 years. Didn't help that she gave them some true stuff to chew on.

However, there were more crazy obviously fake political news posts passed around this past month than I have ever seen. People wanted to believe them. I think it hurt Hillary.

Heck, I think she would be a great president. But if she won, I was not looking forward to four or eight years of her being attacked for things real and imagined. I was tired of that in the 1990s. So I can imagine others did not want to go there at all.

 

I don't disagree with you. But I don't think he was "lying." If he could build a wall, he'd build a wall. He can't build a wall.

 

He was misunderstood each and every one of the approximately 2.6 billion times he said "I'm going to build a wall."

 

So about those manufacturing jobs he is bringing back, can YF explain exactly what he meant.

 

Kind of like the salesman who promises you that he'll waive the charge for rustproofing to get the sale but then the general manager insists on including it when it's time to sign the deal?

 

I don't. I think people overestimate how much "news", fake or otherwise, influences people's perceptions of candidates. People don't go through this elaborate search process, carefully taking things into account before arriving at a decision. Rather, they arrive at a decision and then, on occasion, look to structure an explanation for it.

 

Not suggesting that at all.

I'm genuinely curious about how the day will look.

Marine One waiting outside the Capital for the former President is a cool sight.

And, then there's the question of how warm a send off does the incoming president give the outgoing one. Bush and Reagan were warm towards each other. Then Reagan gives one final salute before they close the door to Marine One, which is returned by GHWB, who looks like the eldest son, who's been given the keys to the company. He looks a little excites; a little scared, and a little sad to see his father leave.

Obama and Michelle walk GWB and Laura all the way to the Marine One, and they are all hugs and kisses. It's kind of sweet.

Obama and Trump didn't even do a photo op with their wives when Trump came to the WH the day after the election.

Do they shake hands as Obama exits? Embrace? Kisses for the wives?

Does Marine One fly him off somewhere, or do we get a less dramatic exit by limo?

 

I heard an NPR story on that from PA on that. The steel and coal workers knew that there was no way those jobs were coming back but just liked hearing him say it, I guess.

Also, even Mitch McConnell now says that it was market forces that are largely the reason for losing all those coal jobs in Kentucky. Obama (and Hillary) didn't really take away those jobs, and the Republicans aren't getting them back.

 

The amount he won't be able to do will be historic, thanks largely to his personality.

 

But we wasn't misunderstood by his supporters.

Only the brilliant beltway elites, and the folks who voted for Hillary, misunderstood him.