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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

  2. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    Based on the Hamilton boycott, Kellogg's stock is a solid buy today.
     
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  3. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

  4. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    Trump’s pledge to be “friendlier to businesses by easing regulations and overhauling the corporate tax code” means that the 1,000 jobs Trump reportedly saved—1,000 are still going to Mexico—are now going to be used as a wedge to pass a massive tax cut that will overwhelmingly benefit the Carrier workers’ bosses, while the “easing” of regulations could hurt their ability to make a living wage, stay safe at work, keep their jobs, or all three. So Trump went to Indiana with a deal that benefited the people who wanted to move jobs to Mexico—and are still moving 1,000 jobs there—and declared it a victory for workers when it’s a victory for their bosses.

    The Carrier “deal” is proof that Donald Trump is a terrible negotiator.
     
  5. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    That doesn't make him a terrible negotiator. He got exactly what he wanted out of the deal.
     
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  6. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    Positive PR?
     
  7. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Should be one of the very first things Trump does as President.

     
  8. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    And that's why, as a persona and as President he is a wretched person and a reprehensible human.

    He's in it for fleeting applause and a bright light. He has no capacity to see beyond his current tweet. 46.7% of the country got what it asked for.

    And if anyone thinks football owners have leverage to get a taxpayer funded stadium, wait until Boeing and Northrop-Grumman and General Electric and Proctor & Gamble will now threaten to leave 100,000 jobs on the table unless taxpayers subsidize their business. That's inverted socialism, which I think, combined with an aggressive military and threaten civil liberties, equates to fascism
     
  9. TigerVols

    TigerVols Well-Known Member

  10. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Cities and states make the kinds of deals that were made with Carrier all the time.

    Why are folks acting like this is unprecedented?

    Even the fears that, "every company will now try to extort government for a deal by threatening to leave" are way overblown.

    Companies already get deals when they threaten to leave -- usually in return for guarantees to keep a certain number of employees.

    Carrier definitely was leaving. It was a done deal. This deal really did save jobs.
     
  11. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    And then there's this take:

     
  12. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Because Pense as governor had every opportunity to do this over the last year or more. And thinking that Pense is at least rational in terms of economics knew this was a bad deal, a bad precedent and mostly ineffective and he didn't give in to a grand but meaningless gesture
     
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