President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Are you really suggesting that Time should set its ethical/factual clock by Rush Limbaugh's standards?

 

Yes, reporters getting facts wrong during breaking news is EXACTLY the same as #Pizzagate. Sure. OK. Gotcha.

 

Also, for many people, the fact that Limbaugh is a partisan is exactly WHY they trust him.

 

I don't agree with much of what you post, but I was really uncomfortable with that little tag at the end of each of their stories during the election cycle.

 

Many of your examples are stories that were attempts to cover a complex story correctly but relied on sources that lied. Most of the people you cited were drummed out of the business for cutting corners.

The "fake news" that is ramptant today is crap that is completely made up -- no reporting involved -- for the cynical purposes of getting web hits or furthering an agenda. Possibly a Russian agenda, in some cases.

 

Truth is an absolute defense against libel.

 

That's all well and good, and I understand all of that.

But, at the end of the day, the next President of the United States has now publicly and nonchalantly advocated capping the profits of private companies, at the federal government's sole discretion.

 

No.

I'm saying on one hand we have YankeeFan, truth in media crusader, standing by to tell us when the media is lying to us.

On the other hand, we have YankeeFan, Limbaugh devotee.

 

Oh, by the way, that whole "$4 billion" "order stuff is bullshit:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/06/us/politics/trump-air-force-one-boeing.html?_r=0

In a statement after Mr. Trump’s Twitter post, Boeing said it had a $170 million contract to study the equipment that a redesigned Air Force One might need. That project has just gotten underway, so billions of dollars in cost overruns at this point appear to be impossible.

“Some of the statistics that have been, uh, cited, shall we say, don’t appear to reflect the nature of the financial agreement between Boeing and the Department of Defense,” the White House press secretary, Josh Earnest, said.

Air Force officials said they were proposing to spend $2.7 billion over the next five years to research, develop and test communications technologies and other advanced systems. The Air Force would then buy two 747-8 aircraft, which normally cost airlines $350 million to $400 million apiece, and refit them to include all the new systems and handle extra weight.

The planes would not be ready to fly until 2024, so Mr. Trump’s $4 billion estimate may ultimately be about correct. However, since nothing but the basic study contract has been awarded yet, his administration could cut back or reshape the Air Force proposal in any way it or Congress wanted.

 

Yeah, a lot of "breaking news" on this list:

The same media that brought us the UVa rape story, "Hands Up Don't Shoot", the Koran flushed down the toilet story, and the George W. Bush went AWOL stories is suddenly worried about "fake news".

The same media that published Jayson Blair, Stephen Glass, Janet Cooke, and Walter Duranty is suddenly concerned about "fake news".

The same media that still employs (or turns to as an expert) Mike Barnicle, Mitch Albom, Doris Kearns Goodwin suddenly thinks "fake news" might be a problem.

Meanwhile, lies about Paul Ryan are told, spread and recycled by members of the media without comment or concern.

The idea that Russians "hacked" our election is treated as a "real news" story despite no evidence

Anti-Muslim and anti-Semitic incidents, fueled by Trump, are reported, without evidence, and often turn out to be fake, but that doesn't concern the media who trumpet these stories before even attempting to confirm them.

The same media that reported that Donald Trump admitted to committing sexual assault is worried about folks being defamed by "fake news".

The Huffington Post added a disclaimer to every article about Donald Trump that called him a serial liar, rampant xenophobe, and racist, but now the media is concerned about how people are covered. ​

I guess Mitch Albom was technically on deadline.

Is this "real news":



How about this? "Real news"?

 

It's different when you're the President of the United States.

It just is.