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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    A) Kohn has walked that assertion back numerous times.
    B) Kohn is not a journalist. She is a pundit.
     
  2. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    I ran into a bit of the fake news dynamic a couple of months ago. One of the local TV stations did an analysis of the city of Arlington's proposal to fund a portion of a new (indoors) stadium for the Rangers. The city's portion is (sort of) capped at around half a billion, but this "analysis" said the city was on the hook for $1.7 billion. Couple of guys in my circle of golf friends were doing the email thing, outraged at such an expensive giveaway.

    When I looked into it, the analysis was nonsense. For example, the author estimated the value of the naming rights at $300 million. Because the team owners would retain those, the author tacked that amount onto the city's cost. When I pointed out to my friends the ridiculousness of this (and some others), the conversation swiftly shifted to "We shouldn't be doing this project!" (which I agreed with). But no matter how I tried, keeping "$1.7 billion!" out of the conversation was impossible.
     
  3. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    May be factually inaccurate.

    Look, it's one thing to get something wrong -- and correct it.

    It's another thing to be willfully blind to the facts, because you want to tell a story.

    Dan Rather wanted to tell a story.

    Sabrina Erdely wanted to tell a story.

    Kurt Eichenwald wanted to spread a rumor he did not know to be true.

    The folks who repeated Ben Rhodes' narratives, or the "Hand Up, Don't Shoot", or the "armed with nothing but a can of iced tea and a bag of skittles" narratives knew that these stories weren't based on reporting. So, they may not have known them to be false, but they sure as hell didn't know them to be true.

    So, sorry, but this all adds up to fake news.
     
  4. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    "Hands Up, Don't Shoot" led directly to the murder of cops.

    The Koran that was flushed down the toilet led to killings.

    Neither story was true.

    Let's not pretend that these fake news stories don't have consequences.
     
  5. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    A. Where? Link?

    B. Is she not part of the "media"?

    She's an opinion journalist, who is featured on CNN. Let's not pretend she doesn't count.
     
  6. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Not the same. And, again, there is plenty of actual analogues on the left to what I am talking about here. The only person being "willfully blind" is you. You want to indict the mainstream media, but you're barking up the wrong tree.
     
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  7. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    @Dick Whitman what do we make of media reports that say 1 in 5 women will get sexually assaulted while attending college or the stories that women make $0.77 for every $1.00 a man makes?

    When these stories are repeated in the media, are the folks just getting the story "wrong" or is it something else?
     
  8. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    So, how should we describe what I'm talking about?

    It's not accidental, and it's not isolated. And, it skews in one direction.

    And, I don't se anything being done to combat it.

    Fuck, Obama gave an "exit interview" to Rolling Stone, where he praised them, and complained about fake news.
     
  9. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    When does somebody tackle the "Fake News" that was spread about the "stand down" order in Benghazi? Or maybe rip into the Cassie Bernall story from Columbine?
     
  10. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member





    If Bill O'Reilly gets a pass for saying Obama got re-elected because all blacks, Latinos and women are lazy and wanted free stuff, Kohn gets a pass for this.

    They are of the same ilk.
     
  11. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Appearing soon in Time: "Journalism Expert Says Sally Kohn and Bill O'Reilly 'Cut Out of the Same Cloth'" ...
     
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  12. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    LOL.

    She retreated to "sources" and claims "good faith", huh?

    And, "facts" were "apparent" then? Facts are facts or they aren't facts.

    Kohn didn't report. She didn't cite police statements, because there weren't any.

    But, now, to let her off the hook, I'm supposed to believe that a police source told her something that wasn't true -- about one of their fellow officers -- was true?

    Bullshit. Kohn was emotional, and she lied.
     
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