President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Because it feels good.

Yeah, I'm 4 years old. I don't care.

 

Real answer: They loathe democracy and crave a strongman who will imprison and kill their enemies, which is about 52 percent of the population.

 

(R)emarkable. (R)eally tough to think of a (R)eason why they'd change their view on (R)ussia.

 

Why do they like Trump, who wants to tariff the shit out of imported goods?

Because they're not really Republicans. They're some mix of Fox News, free market-ish, big box church, contrarian, nihilistic culture warrior who needs to get off fucking Facebook.

 

You say this as if it would have been a good enough answer for you had Clinton won and we all know better.

Sharing information through proper channels is vital, unless somebody you like fails to do so, then it doesn't matter.

You truly do continue to set new standards for hypocrisy.

 

That doesn't make them not Republicans. They've inherited the title whether you like it or not, the same way a Vega is just as much a Chevrolet as a 57 Bel Air.

 

Nah.

At least some of them have been groomed and led to hate the America they live in. It has a cumulative effect. This election was won by 20-some years of relentless, unmerciful propaganda spewed by right-wing media, spearheaded by Roger Ailes, one of the most loathsome, despicable bosses in America. Even the news outlets that eventually repudiated Trump - think Erick Erickson, think Glenn Beck - paved the way for this election. It's on them, and it's on the Americans (and churches) who listened to those people for too long.

They've created a kind of virulent contrarianism that obliterates objectivity. We're seeing come to a head now.

Underneath that, we're seeing the abject failure of liberalism to address how social and financial class matters, though, too. These are people who ought to be Democrats. They're not, in part because liberals:

>>Do a horrible job in local elections, to the point where they don't even bother to put up decent candidates.

>>Have hitched their train so entirely to identity politics that some with great wealth and privilege can claim and do claim hardships that poor, shiftless white Americans can't and, to some degree, aren't allowed to even think about claiming.

>>Have lost any kind of touch with economy issues while trying to pursue social change.

 

Because he stands on a wall. And he says, "Nothing's going to hurt you tonight. Not on my watch."

 

If today's Republicans like Putin, they'll absolutely love Duterte ...

 

Clinton did not lose the Rust Belt because the Russians hacked shit up. The hacking is wrong, and it's alarming as shit.

It's not why she lost the Rust Belt.

She lost because she had no narrative for the region. None. Neither did any of the previous Republicans - outside of appealing to Christians - until Trump rolled in and played the blowhard, renegade union boss. He worked up the rank and file. He's full of it, but, after years of being neglected, you think that rank and file cared? It did not.

And did race play some part of it? I think it did. Obviously, it did. Some of it was out-and-out racism. Some of it wasn't.

Most of my extended family/relatives voted for Trump. The women, too. Some white collar, some blue collar, but almost totally blue collar roots, and the rationale was consistently the same: They decided late in the election, they're tired of politics as usual, they watch too much Fox News and read too much on Facebook, they voted for Obama at least once, their health care bills went up, and, yes, they think things are worse than they really are.

 

Soon they will not be worse than they really are. They'll be worse than they imagined. How will they react?