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Just take the whole same bill, slap "Trumpcare" on top of it, and the Trump supporters will fall all over themselves to support it.

 

Yeah. The ACA is basically the same as what Romney established in Massachusetts. Some of the details differ, but the big rocks are all the same.

 

The reason many people voted for Trump is that they did not believe that politicians would take a benefit away. This belief indicates a sound understanding of United States history. My question is where the Congressman and Senators of this town (Corbin, Kentucky) who are all Republicans will line up. The Congressman from Eastern Kentucky is a very senior Republican, Hal Rogers. Will he and other Congressmaen from affected districts get up and say that they will not vote repeal until a replacement is passed.

 

The ACA can largely be done away with without Congressional action. It needs a lot of executive goosing to remain viable, and without that it will fade to irrelevancy.

 

How many people here get their insurance from the exchange?

I don't think you'll find a lot of people who do who are happy with it.

 

At least among those not getting a subsidy.

 

Nobody will miss it except the tens of millions of people it was meant to help.

 

Twenty million people who didn't have insurance now have it and are set to lose it. They'll miss it. But in YF world "subsidy" is a term meaning "people I don't like got something from their government, so that's bad." Let's face it. The Trump world view is that half the population of our country deserves nothing, not even democracy. And YF is its leading exponent here.

 

PS: Poll in WaPo shows 52 percent of Republicans believe Trump won popular vote. Our country will be run by delusionals. That is a formula for complete disaster. That's 25 percent of the country who would respond positively to one of their own rejecting ANY unfavorable outcome of an election.

 

In MG world, government that "works" is government that first: A) fucks up a market so completely it's not even a market anymore; then B) swoops in with some subsidies to clean up a bit of the mess of its making. "Better government," of course, would (in MG world) be an even bigger cluster-fuck of a market coupled with (and this is key) even bigger ameliorative subsidies. Indeed, in MG world they point to the size/reach of the subsidies as evidence of how well things are working!

 

Quant, when the government gives people money to purchase something very important to their well-being, indeed, to their very lives, that they could not otherwise afford, to me that's a good thing. That's how societies work best, when we help each other. Would you prefer a straight National Health Service socialized medical system? Or do you regard Great Britain as a leftist hellhole?