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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

  2. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    Some serious inadequacy issues on display here:



     
  3. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    This will never happen here.

    (For the record, neither will single-payer.)
     
  4. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Nah. There's no way this guy was hoping to provoke an incident that would go viral:

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  5. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Let me note that I'm not defending him here (my never-trump bona fides are still in good order, I believe), but his 3rd tweet there is kind of interesting. Bloomberg BusinessWeek had an interview with him this past summer in which he dismissed the idea that it should cost so much to win the White House. Stipulating that his 3rd tweet is somewhat accurate, his assessment was pretty uncanny.
     
  6. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Liberals are being ridiculous about this, but it's an easy an fun way to troll Trumpies, especially the man himself. It clearly gets under their skin.
     
  7. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    You don't hear too much liberal blather about Citizens United these days.
     
  8. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Nah ... they've moved on ... :cool:
     
  9. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    The medical insurance system as it existed pre-ACA was massively dysfunctional. Millions with no insurance used the ER, the most expensive form of care, for simple medical visits. They could not afford to pay for it. All of us then picked up the tab whenever the medical system got its hooks into us.

    I don't know how to fix it; better trained people than I have yet to figure it out. I think the basic idea of the ACA was good, but the Republicans decided early on that they were going to do everything they could to impede Obama, whether what he was trying to do made sense or not. So we get "repeal and replace", even though six years after the program started they still have no plan to replace it.

    In the country I grew up in, the political parties disagreed and opposed each other, but they also understood that both sides had good intentions for the country. They fought for their ideas and programs, but they also reached compromises. Generally, if both sides felt vaguely screwed it was a pretty good deal. Compromise has become a dirty word. Now it's "My party gets what it demands or you get nothing but scorched earth in every way I can feed it to you." If a politician reaches across the aisle and works to reach a compromise deal, the yammerheads at the wingnut fringe of their party primaries them. It does not matter how good or skilled that legislator is, it's "chuck him out and get a right thinking guy in there."

    What *should* have happened after the ACA was passed and the Supreme Court ruled was both sides continuing to work on it, fixing the screw ups, refining it, removing or rewriting the really bad parts, seeing why the parts that worked did and trying to apply those lessons elsewhere. Medicare was all kinds of bad, but over the years has been refined until it is fairly workable. The ACA never got any of that refinement, and we're stuck with the mess that was passed. Now the Republicans hold all the levers of power and they get to try to come up with something better, but I have seen no evidence that they have a clue about what to do. If they tear it down the public will come to realize that nothing better has replaced it, so the pressure is on to do something effective before the next round of elections.

    Best of luck to them, because what they come up with will be very important to the whole country.
     
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  10. Starman

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  11. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    I mean, the numbers I saw said Hillary outspent him 2 to 1. But he still spent almost $300 million.

    He is the petulant child on the basketball court who cries that he was fouled every time he misses a shot. Even when he's up by 10.
     
  12. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Sounds like he'd fit right in at Duke ...
     
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