NFL MVP

Yeah, 9 yards per catch ... shit, I don't even know why they throw to him.

 

All tying into my point, but you would rather look for a fight than have a genuine discussion.

Whoops. Quote function fail. That was in response to LTL's latest lame attempt to incorrectly identify my overall point because he knows there is no question I'm right on that one.

 

And yet, he finds himself on the sideline quite often on third downs and in two-minute drills.

 

First of all, not as much as you think. Second, the Cowboys are very aware of Elliott's workload and look for ways to manage it by getting him off the field at times (even if it means occasionally putting Alfred Morris and his 3.8 yards per carry average out there). Third, they like Dunbar (though he really hasn't done jack this season) and his skill set and are conscious of getting him on the field -- which, of course, meshes nicely with point No. 2.

 

As I said earlier, it is what players have done, not what they can do. Elliott certainly seems capable of doing more as a receiver. I think the largest differences between him and Bell are experience and the Cowboys choosing to do more to limit his workload.

Elliott is a rookie who will be the Cowboys' feature back for a long time. They also are smart to do what they can to keep him from wearing down as he adjusts to the longer NFL season. Bell is in his fourth year and the team will most likely have to franchise tag him to keep him. I don't think they want to commit to a long-term deal given that he has already been through two drug-related suspensions.

Y'all are certainly welcome to wallow in the smaller point, but the larger one stands quite clear. Bell contributes more as a receiver than Elliott, which is a key reason why Elliott isn't even clearly the best MVP candidate among the running backs. Of course, this week could change some perceptions in that area. The Ravens shut Bell down once. Part of that was a game plan meant more to protect Roethlisberger than to produce a lot of points, but I still wouldn't expect a big game this week.

 

Convert that to all of SJ.com and your fake Donald Trump would be right about something.

 

LtL, my point was Carr hasn't won many games on his own. He's had a handful, but for the majority of them he's been Alex Smith (I keep using Smith bc he's the most slightly above average QB I can think of)

Montana was MVP in 89 after playing 13 games and going 11-2, so it's happened before. I don't think Brady is MVP, but i don't see how you can pick a guy over him who doesn't have the numbers to back it up.

 

Your point is completely incorrect.

They are 11-3 while allowing 24 points a game. The only team that allows more points and has won even nine games is Atlanta. The Raiders have seven fourth-quarter comebacks, including three when they trailed in the final three minutes.

The Pats have allowed 24+ points twice with Brady this season. They are 1-1. The Raiders have allowed 24+ points eight times with Carr. They are 6-2.

I don't know what your definition is of winning games on his own, but it seems like late comebacks after the defense falls apart is a pretty good way to look at it.

 

And also Derek Carr and Alex Smith are about as far apart in style and performance as two quarterbacks can possibly get. You're out of your depth here.