"The Force Awakens" (with SPOILERS)

[Cosmo]

One thing about Rogue One that is kind of sticking out to me ... thought about this after listening to the Greenwald/Ryan Ringer podcast on the film.

From Episode IV:

Princess Leia Organa: Governor Tarkin. I should have expected to find you holding Vader's leash. I recognized your foul stench when I was brought onboard.
Grand Moff Wilhuff Tarkin: Charming to the last. You don't know how hard I found it, signing the order to terminate your life.
Leia: [sarcastically] I'm surprised you had the courage to take the responsibility yourself.
Tarkin: Princess Leia, before your execution, I would like you to be my guest at a ceremony that will make this battle station operational. No star system will dare oppose the Emperor now.
Leia: The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.
Tarkin: Not after we demonstrate the power of this station. In a way, you have determined the choice of the planet that will be destroyed first. Since you are reluctant to provide us with the location of the Rebel base, I have chosen to test this station's destructive power on your home planet of Alderaan.
Leia: [shocked] No! Alderaan is peaceful. We have no weapons. You can't possibly–
Tarkin: You would prefer another target? A military target?! Then name the system! [stepping closer to Leia and pinning her against Darth Vader] I grow tired of asking this, so it will be the last time. Where is the Rebel base?
Leia: [looks at Alderaan for a moment, then, resigned] Dantooine. They're on Dantooine.
Tarkin: There. You see, Lord Vader? She can be reasonable. [to assistant] Continue with the operation. You may fire when ready.
Leia: [panicked] What?!
Tarkin: You are far too trusting. Dantooine is too remote to make an effective demonstration, but don't worry. We will deal with your rebel friends soon enough.
Leia: No!
[The Death Star destroys Alderaan]

It seemed that in Rogue One, the Death Star was already quite operational, traveling through hyperspace and destroying an entire military installation planet. Did the rest of the galaxy just not know about that? Anyway, just something that sort of stuck out as an inconsistency.

 

[Spartan Squad]

It seemed that in Rogue One, the Death Star was already quite operational, traveling through hyperspace and destroying an entire military installation planet. Did the rest of the galaxy just not know about that? Anyway, just something that sort of stuck out as an inconsistency.

Maybe if you look at the time table of events as being matters of days in Rogue One and a couple of days further to capture Leia, the rest of the Galaxy might be hearing rumors of Jeda's destruction and maybe though the destruction of the Empire's memory archive was the work of the rebels so Tarken wanted to show that the Death Star could really do what they say. Besides, the Death Star was still being finished at the start of Rogue One and they only blew up a city, which I guess even a star destroyer could do with enough effort.

I don't know, that's how I'd make sense of it, but your point stands.

 

[Baron Scicluna]

One thing about Rogue One that is kind of sticking out to me ... thought about this after listening to the Greenwald/Ryan Ringer podcast on the film.

From Episode IV:



It seemed that in Rogue One, the Death Star was already quite operational, traveling through hyperspace and destroying an entire military installation planet. Did the rest of the galaxy just not know about that? Anyway, just something that sort of stuck out as an inconsistency.

Vader said that when the first city was blown up, that the Empire would explain it away like it was a mining accident or something like that. They were keeping it hush-hush.

It's a pretty huge galaxy out there. They probably had people/droids/wookies/whatever knowing about it, but just as many dismissing the Death Star as some sort of rumor.

 

[Cosmo]

All good points. I will say, the scene of the Death Star coming out of hyperspace was pretty jaw dropping. The whole damn end of the movie was.

 

[Starman]

Leia will die doing something instrumental in the redemption of Kylo/Ben. Book it.

Padme died giving life to her children; Leia will die saving the life of her son.

 

[outofplace]

I heard about Fisher's death about a half hour before we left to see Rogue One. It was a little weird seeing the CGI version of her right after that.

Little OOP thought the movie was a bit slow, but she enjoyed the references to the previous movies that she spotted. There are quite a few, many of which haven't been mentioned on the thread yet.

I would have liked to see more Darth Vader, but what we got was excellent.

 

[EStreetJoe]

I need to start coming back here more often.
Rogue One was quite entertaining, but falls in the middle of the pack of all the Star Wars films.
In R1, the Death Star only blew up a city and a military base, it hadn't blown up the entire planet directly like it did with Alderan.

Loved all the little refetences to the original Star Wars film, including showing how Luke's call symbol (Red Five) became available.

Anyone know how close Scariff and Tatooine are? Was Leia on an extraction mission to get ObiWan since she knew he was on Tatooine.

I didn't find it confusing on how they assembled the team.

 

[outofplace]

One thing that did bother me was the Death Star doing less damage than it did in the original. Maybe they were still working out the kinks or using a lower setting, but a bit more of an explanation of why didn't just instantly destroy entire planets might have worked better.

There was something in the command at Scariff. I just thought it should be clearer.

 

[Ace]

One thing that did bother me was the Death Star doing less damage than it did in the original. Maybe they were still working out the kinks or using a lower setting, but a bit more of an explanation of why didn't just instantly destroy entire planets might have worked better.

There was something in the command at Scariff. I just thought it should be clearer.

They explained that ion the film. It wasn't fully ready to blow up a planet -- or Tarkin wasn't sure it would work -- so they put it on a lower setting to test it.

 

[outofplace]

They explained that ion the film. It wasn't fully ready to blow up a planet -- or Tarkin wasn't sure it would work -- so they put it on a lower setting to test it.

Thanks. I remember something about the setting for Scariff, but if there was more, I missed it.

 

[JakeandElwood]

They explained that ion the film. It wasn't fully ready to blow up a planet -- or Tarkin wasn't sure it would work -- so they put it on a lower setting to test it.

Tarkin orders a single cannon blast, if memory serves.

 

[outofplace]

Wasn't Alderaan destroyed with a single shot in the original?