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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Alabama Mississippi Arkansas Oklahoma are brimming with high paying jobs. Great schools And warm and inviting people
     
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  2. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

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    "Howevah, owah beloved Football Red Sawx led by Towwwwwmeee Brady still kick ass!"
     
  3. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    The point was only that if your governor was so ideologically blinded as to deny healthcare to people under hardship when the cost was very little to the state, it will only get worse with more license to cut programs and services.
     
  4. QYFW

    QYFW Well-Known Member

    Chicago should be about to enter The Great Age of Prosperity.
     
  5. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    Imagine if a liberal Democratic president announced plans to appoint a Secretary of the Navy with no military experience.

    Trump looking to appoint investment executive to lead U.S. Navy

    His stocking plan for virtually every single agency of the national government consists of variations of the "flaming bag of dog shit" prank.

    "Let's appoint the worst possible pick anybody can think of, then hide in the bushes and wait for John Q Citizen to come out, stomp on the bag, and start screaming!! It'll piss them off SO MUCH!! Heh-heh, heh-heh!!!!"
     
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  6. JohnHammond

    JohnHammond Well-Known Member

    "Cost very little." There are benefits as a result of those costs, but let's not pretend it amounts to something akin to a rounding error.
     
  7. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    Toby Keith, 3 Doors Down, and Lee Greenwood.

    No Ted Nugent? #WangTangSweetPoontang
     
  8. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Because the one thing we could be dinged for was the drought. And we fixed that.
     
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  9. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    Ragu, do you have a better way of supporting all of the people who live under extremely difficult circumstances?
     
  10. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    Every man for themselves.
     
  11. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    BZZZTTT!!
    Sorry. The correct answer, as everyone knows, is "climate change." We were were looking for "climate change."
     
  12. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    We are talking about 73 million people -- 1 in 5 Americans. At what point will you acknowledge the reality of what you have created, rather than always trying to frame it in terms of some question related to compassion. It's about the least compassionate thing I can imagine, because it has screwed up the market for health care, hurting millions more who haven't been made dependent on the state. In the name of compassion, you are hurting people.

    The program itself has been the biggest contributor to why so many people now rely on it. They created a self-fulfilling prophecy with it. At first it was, "Well, we need to take care of the very most vulnerable." But in the efforts to do that, they began this path to destroying the market for health care, driving up costs at an insane pace, and creating a burden for everyone else being asked to support it. It's not just Medicaid. There were way more messed up interferences that have contributed too. But in regard to Medicaid itself, we got this to the point that we drove up costs on ourselves and created such an inefficient mess, that everyone else can't be asked to handle the burden of what we have. So the fantasy of some people subsidizing others (but just the needy!) has been thrown out the window and we are just putting ourselves into bigger and bigger debt to avoid being realistic. You really think that this can go on another decade even?

    As costs have gone up -- which was entirely predictable, except that anyone pointing out that there was no free lunch got shouted down -- more people are driven into the program, creating 73 million people "who live under extremely difficult circumstances." The thing has grown bigger and bigger (to the point where the ACA was largely designed to funnel people to it) and it is characterized by inefficiency, waste and bloat. Which is also no surprise, because there is no incentive for it NOT to be the mess every state-run program like that is.

    AYou have created this mess in which 1 in 5 people in the country is dependent on something that not only does a shitty job of providing what you want it to. ... it is bankrupting the country. I can point that out without having a magical solution for the fact that we live in a world of scare resources that makes it difficult for everyone to have everything we all want them to have. The question isn't, "Do *I* have a better way." The question for me is, "Why are we screwing up the market for health care this way, driving up costs for everyone, and making people dependent on the mess we created?"
     
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