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2017 Pro Wrestling Thread

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by Rainman, Dec 29, 2016.

  1. KYSportsWriter

    KYSportsWriter Well-Known Member

    And just like that, heeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrre'ssss Johnny!
     
  2. KYSportsWriter

    KYSportsWriter Well-Known Member

    And Bray's first defense will be in a triple threat against Cena and Styles.

    I'm guessing Miz interferes to cost Cena.
     
  3. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    How are we defining "big man?" Height? Weight? Both? Also, how do we define "mostly a mid-carder?" There's guys who had main event peaks, but spent a lot of time in the mid-card (Mark Henry). There's guys who main-evented sometimes against the top babyface and always lost, but mostly were mid-carders (Bam Bam Bigelow, One Man Gang/Akeem). There's tall guys who main evented in the territories and against the champion, but in the big three, were mostly in the mid-card (Barry Windham).
     
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  4. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    Bad timing on the last question, in the aftermath of an eventful PPV and Raw.

    As for the new one, best mid-card big man, that's a hard question because as Baron pointed out a lot of guys had some major main event runs.
    I'd say Kane, for his longevity and versatility. He had some world title and main event runs, but spent the majority just outside the top tier. He was always able to slide up to a top feud when needed, however, and could carry his end of a match against anybody from the Big Show to Rey Mysterio. Throw in a strong 15-year run as a full-timer, and that's hard to top.
    Big Show falls into that category as well, in terms of being able to move around the card and fill a lot of roles, but he has not aged nearly as well as Kane has.

    If you're defining a career mid-carder as someone who never held a world title, that's a lot tougher. So many guys got fed to Hogan in the 80s that they never really had a chance to be more than a brief but memorable blip. I loved King Kong Bundy and One Man Gang, but I don't know if anyone would put them on a lot of "greatest ever" lists.
    Big Boss Man was a solid worker with some memorable moments, but a lot of people also saw him as a stiff.
    Big John Studd was one of the original monster heels, but he's another one most people probably don't remember.
     
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  5. JimmyHoward33

    JimmyHoward33 Well-Known Member

    Really fun main event in Smackdown. They've had a nice run of big match feels the last few weeks.

    Figured Orton "refusing" to face Bray was a ruse but I guess they announced a No 1 contender battle royal for next week? That seems very strange.
     
  6. Rainman

    Rainman Well-Known Member

    Good points @Batman and @Baron Scicluna - for the sake of discussion, we'll go with mid-carders that never won the World Title. And to define "big man" Bam Bam, Bundy, Studd, Bossman, Akeem, etc. are all acceptable answers.

    I know Studd won the NWA Heavyweight championship in different promotions, but I'm most talking about winning the Main Heavyweight title belt in the WWF/E.
     
  7. nietsroob17

    nietsroob17 Well-Known Member

  8. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Like I said on the politics thread, it's awfully nice of Trump to pose with the six future general managers of Raw and Smackdown.
     
  9. JRoyal

    JRoyal Well-Known Member

    Best midcard big man = Bruiser Brody. Done.
     
  10. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    The problem, though, is that hardly any big men won the World title in any of the major federations, at least until Hogan. Heck, except for two minutes, Andre the Giant never won a world title. He'd sure as heck wouldn't be considered a mid-carder though.

    The same with Bruiser Brody. Today, he'd have multiple heavyweight titles. Back in the territory days, he mostly didn't stay in one territory. Like Andre, promoters would bring him in for a week or two at a time to pop the crowd at a major show. He was a main eventer internationally for over 10 years, and one of the greatest American wrestlers in Japan. He wasn't a midcarder by no means.
     
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  11. Rainman

    Rainman Well-Known Member

    That's fair. I tried to put a twist on this question because the top two answers would be obvious; Undertaker or Andre the Giant.

    I will have another question tomorrow morning.
     
  12. Rainman

    Rainman Well-Known Member

    Really enjoying the replies/participation so far.

    Next question: Greatest ring psychologist?

    Thought this may generate some interesting answers.
     
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