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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    LOL. You discovered Tom Nichols now.
     
  2. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    And many don't.

    At best, it's up for debate, which doesn't make Gorka's position wrong.

    What are the beliefs of the Islamic scholars you mention regarding issues like apostasy?
     
  3. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

  4. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    Wouldn't that be because that small group arms themselves and shows no hesitation at using those arms against anyone in the vast peaceful majority who does not respect their authority?

    A bullet ... uh ... trumps 20 fists.
     
  5. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

  6. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

  7. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    So, if we simply armed "moderate Muslims" would the problem resolve itself?

    Can we send back the Syrian refugees with some guns and let them take care of business?
     
  8. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    Military SF writer John Ringo on McMaster. He generally knows what he's talking about.


    "McMasters for NSA.

    Fuck. Yeah.

    For those who don't know much about McMasters, just check his wiki which isn't all that 'edited for lefty sensibilities.'

    Short answer: Took his troop (company) in against a brigade of Republican Guard (about ten times his firepower) in Desert Storm and stomped them. In 23 minutes. And I mean Stomped. Them. Hard.

    Won the Silver Star (very well deserved, there are arguments for DSC. Also later two bronze and a purple heart.)

    In Iraq took over a 'hot' sector and turned it basically cold. (Then had it go hot when he left when the replacement unit didn't use the same tactics.) Essentially created the tactics the Marines (under Mattis) later used to get the Al Najar tribes on our side. Which looked to actually be working right up until we pulled out and the place went to shit.

    The Old Bull generals at the time hated him. He didn't take their pronouncements of Olympian Superiority as Gospel. He wasn't Cold War, zero defect, there's-nothing-strategically-important enough for them. He was one of the new generation of officers who had been fighting various low-intensity mixed with high-intensity fights since the end of the Cold War. So they black balled him. (Refused to promote him to General.) Bush basically shoved him down their throat and at least partially broke the log-jam against officers with actual, you know, COMBAT EXPERIENCE making rank. (Was one of those big discussions back on boards like this at the time.)

    Beloved by his troops. Well respected by his peers and superiors. Mind like a quantum physicist. Eidetic memory. Universally curious.

    Bright eyed intellectual warrior. Can tell you everything there is to know about the politics of any country on earth down to who's who of the major players. (Something Trump desperately needs.) Great 'out of the box' thinker.

    And his 'high protein, low carb' fruit salad makes Mattis' balls shrivel up a little.

    Q: If Rommel and McMasters went up against each other, same TOE, same level of training, same numbers, who wins?

    A: God. Cause the Almighty would be breaking out the popcorn for that one."
     
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  9. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    You're going for the negative result, or the most ridiculous. I'm merely stating fact. You're asking why the extremists can't be beaten down. Well, the extremists are armed. The moderates are not.
     
  10. Machine Head

    Machine Head Well-Known Member

    Both are. The other is from the POTUS twitter account.
     
  11. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    The Iraqi and the Syrian armies both had lots of guns.
     
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  12. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    The simple truth is, we're not very good at identifying "moderate Muslim" leaders.

    We take them at their word when they make simple pronouncements, to the media, in English, after terror attacks, or when when their views are sought out.

    But, we don't know what they say during their sermons, or in private conversations.

    After 9/11, for instance, Anwar al-Awlaki was considered a moderate:

    Anwar al-Awlaki - the radical spiritual leader linked to several 9/11 attackers, the Fort Hood shooting, and the attempted Christmas Day bombing of an airliner - was a guest at the Pentagon in the months after 9/11, a Pentagon official confirmed to CBS News.

    Awlaki was invited as "...part of an informal outreach program" in which officials sought contact "...with leading members of the Muslim community," the official said. At that time, Awlaki was widely viewed as a "moderate" imam at a mosque in Northern Virginia.


    Qaeda-Linked Imam Dined at Pentagon after 9/11
     
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