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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

  2. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    Our puppet is now president of Ukraine. The president of Estonia from 2006-2016 grew up in New Jersey. The current leader of the Polish parliament is Radoslaw Sikorski, a former U.S. resident who is married to idiot columnist Anne Applebaum, a member of the editorial board of The Washington Post.

    Do you ever wonder how such things happen? How we manage to place our people so nicely in places in Eastern Europe?
     
  3. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Federal funding of the arts is one of those culture war totems I wish would just go away. Yes, there are many wonderful things that come out of it, and yes, it's pretty much a rounding error with respect to the entire federal budget. Nevertheless, I get sick of the left using it to bash the right (c.f., Piss Christ, The Holy Virgin Mary, etc.) and I get sick of the right rising to the bait. To hell with it. Shut it down and let the battle move on to something else.
     
  4. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    The moderate artists aren't like that.
     
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  5. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    Eating their own:

     
  6. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Thank goodness the guy who hired Milo is gone to a job where he can't do much damage.
     
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  7. Tarheel316

    Tarheel316 Well-Known Member

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  8. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    This from the guy who quotes every liberal loon you've never heard of.
     
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  9. QYFW

    QYFW Well-Known Member

    I'm pleased that liberals are starting to embrace their general ignorance.
     
  10. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    No one embraced you, General.
     
  11. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    If you are trying to troll people, QBERT, it might help to be more specific.

    Like this: Conservatives are so dumb they think life begins at contraception.

    If you are trying to be funny, it might help to be funny.
     
  12. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    In the case of Petro Poroshenko, I think you are somewhat right. He was democratically elected, so to call him an American puppet may be a stretch. But it's true that the U.S. was not upset with the way Viktor Yanukovych was removed from office. The U.S. may have even been covertly involved -- although there is no direct evidence, is there? But you likely have something there.

    In the case of Toomas Hendrik Ilves, yeah, he grew up in New Jersey. But that is because Estonia was part of the Iron Curtain and his parents were refugees -- who retained their Estonian identity. His dad fled the country during WWII just as the Russians were marching in. I don't think he is any more "our people" than, for example, Francois Hollande is. He's a typical liberish centrist European politician -- who won a democratically elected office. He was educated in the U.S., but he has pretty much always been Estonian / European.

    And Radoslaw Sikorski? The guy hates Putin, so that puts him on our side in a way, but he has made very unflattering remarks about the U.S and Poland's relationship with it, too. You'd have to really stretch to call him "our people." First of all, he is Polish through and through (was there for the Solidarity movement). Second of all, he kind of bitches about everything that isn't Polish.

    I dunno. You are kind of combining a lot of things into a narrative that I just don't see. Most of the people in that part of the world fear Putin and Russia. It is rational on their part. It isn't because the U.S. is necessarily pulling their strings.
     
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