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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. Vombatus

    Vombatus Well-Known Member

    Multi-level marketing.
     
  2. Guy_Incognito

    Guy_Incognito Well-Known Member

    Separate bathrooms for men and women
    Separate bathrooms for whites and blacks

    Are you really not getting this?
     
  3. Vombatus

    Vombatus Well-Known Member

    Architects can just put in one bigger communal bathroom.

    As long as we get to keep urinals. Or, the trough.
     
  4. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    You still haven't said how they're being being discriminated against by having separate bathrooms. Merely having separate facilities doesn't mean it's discrimination. Discrimination happens when there is harm being done because of the separation.

    Blacks were harmed because the facilities frequently were not equal, and, even if they were, there was harm because they were not being treated like any other male or female. Transexuals are being harmed because, with a separate bathroom, they are not being treated like any other male or female that they identify with. Heterosexual men aren't being discriminated against because they're not being harmed by using a men's room. Heterosexual women aren't being discriminated against because they're not being harmed by using a women's room.

    Or, to use another example, are college athletes being discriminated against because there are separate men's and women's teams in different sports?
     
  5. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    Because someone in North Carolina decided a law needed to be passed?

    This has been and still is a giant nothingburger. I'm sure, given where I live and the smallness of my bladder, that I've peed next to a transgender at least once, and didn't even know it.

    And it's not like there aren't laws already on the books making it illegal to molest people in public bathrooms, regardless of one's certainty about one's gender.
     
  6. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    Well, we've seen this before in many forms. It might not matter how minor the minority is. Crusaders are going to crusade, and the liberal media is going to jump on the bandwagon.

    I don't believe I just said that, but it's the truth.
     
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  7. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Actually, no, you doofus ... everybody else is treated exactly as they were born (biologically male or female), which is how transsexuals would be treated. But that's neither here nor there.

    The suggestion was "unisex single-stall" bathrooms. Everybody uses whichever the fuck one they want.

    You're arguing that we have to have only "male" and "female" restrooms and that they have to be open so that everybody can see everybody else. A trans woman has to see and be seen by other women, you're arguing, otherwise we're in Jim Crow territory.
     
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  8. Guy_Incognito

    Guy_Incognito Well-Known Member

    You are endorsing separate but equal. It's fine, but Brown v. Board of Ed disagrees.

    Because I'm tired of this game, there is a difference. In equal protection law, distinctions based on race get strict scrutiny, which is almost always un-passable (with a notable exception). Gender based differences get intermediate scrutiny, which means there could be good, valid, reasons to distinguish - like separate bathrooms or dressing rooms. The point is that your analogy is not good.
     
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  9. Big Circus

    Big Circus Well-Known Member

    They're coming for catnip next!
     
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  10. Jake_Taylor

    Jake_Taylor Well-Known Member

    When I was in high school the girls had a couch in their bathroom and doors on their stalls, so it turns out it was actually a group of mostly white, middle class males suffering bathroom discrimination!!!!!
     
  11. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    So many gay republicans!

    Maybe BuzzFeed will out them like the Daily Beast outed gay Olympians.

     
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  12. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    If you're on Grindr, aren't you pretty much out already? Or is there a no-outing policy like the one we have here?
     
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