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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. SnarkShark

    SnarkShark Well-Known Member

    Ketchup on anything is disgusting. Just dump a pile of sugar on whatever you're eating. Same difference.
     
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  2. BitterYoungMatador2

    BitterYoungMatador2 Well-Known Member

    And salt.
    And corn syrup.

    This from a guy who grew up where Heinz is headquartered.
     
  3. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    $54B in cuts to the rest of the budget? Oh, this will get messy.

     
  4. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    So details are emerging about the doof-in-chief's budget. ... It's a fantasy, of course.

    But the idea is that he is going to take an already bloated defense budget (we spend more than the next 8 countries combined), and we need to make America strong, so. ... $50+ billion more in defense spending. Because this is the thing that is most important right now.

    To get it and keep the deficit from ballooning, there will be corresponding cuts to foreign aid, and nearly every government agency. At the same time, somehow (with no details, but he just made remarks), big, yuuuuuuuge infrastructure spending.

    And tax cuts! Except no explanation about how that is going to be accomplished without blowing out the national debt, at least without a massive border adjustment tax (which will hit every low and middle income American HARD and put Wal-Mart out of business) like the one that Paul Ryan was talking about once upon a time. Except that won't fly when people find that buying a gallon of milk is costing half of their paycheck.

    Not to mention no talk about how the 75 percent of the budget in entitlements that is really blowing up our national debt are ever going to be dealt with -- before they swallow us up. But social security, medicare, etc. are the third rail of politics, and he is not the rational, speak-the-truth leader we really need. So let's stick our head in the sand for another 3 of 6 or 7 or 9 years and pretend some more.

    The biggest part of me says, none of this is possible. ... except an idiot and narcissist of these proportions being president wasn't possible.

    Oh, and why the fuck are we taking an already ridiculous "defense" budget and blowing it up even further? We spend more than the next 8 countries combined. Who are we planning on waging war against next, a band of invading, well-capitalized unicorns?
     
  5. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Trump will propose it, Paul Ryan will hammer it through, and then public reaction will get so bad that Trump will veto his own budget while saying it was Ryan's.
     
  6. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    Any president could have every member of Congress be from his party and the budget he submits to Capitol Hill would still be used for nothing more important than keeping bridge scores on the back.
     
  7. BitterYoungMatador2

    BitterYoungMatador2 Well-Known Member

    This country has an unhealthy obsession with its military. Has for decades. It's never big enough in some people's eyes.
     
  8. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    Lots of democratically elected leaders may "need" to be removed***. Costs a lot of money to do that and stir up all other kinds of shit around the world.


    *** I don't call it "regime change" anymore, because that's a term we use on purpose to make it seem like we are toppling evil, autocratic, totalitarian leaders. We didn't call Obama's term a "regime," did we? Even though that's exactly what it was. "Regime" simply means "the ruling government of a country."

    regime - Dictionary Definition
     
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  9. SpeedTchr

    SpeedTchr Well-Known Member

    Fries are a ketchup delivery system. That is all.
     
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  10. HanSenSE

    HanSenSE Well-Known Member

    He says we're going to do more with less. Where have we heard that before?
     
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  11. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    In the grand scheme of things $50 billion inside a $4 trillion budget (which is really the problem), isn't the problem. But it is indicative of the fact that they have no clue.

    1) They are playing around the edges, when 70 to 75 percent of our budget is non-discretionary and legislatively already built in. ... and we just can't afford it. Our debt is out of control. NOBODY is dealing with, well, actual reality.
    2) Even if you want to play a game of make believe and put a window dressing budget out there that plays around the edges. ... defense spending is what we need to make a priority right now? Really?

    The crazy thing is that the OMB new head, Nick Mulvaney GETS this. ... when he faced senate subcommittees in January, he said he was a truth to power to guy (because he was asked about the fact that he stood in contrast to a great deal of Trump's idiotic rhetoric) and was brutally honest about how we are getting swallowed up by social security and medicare and said that we need to drastically cut spending. He advocated raising the age for SS and means-testing medicare. How do you stick your name on the mess that is going to come out of his office and not feel shame?
     
  12. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    And the media's.
     
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