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Who knows? The country has grown since 1969. So have the number and scope of its environmental problems, the the cost to clean up existing brownfields, etc., and the cost to regulate polluting industries. As the country grows, the size of the government to serve it should grow accordingly.

 

Sure, the budget should grow, but not necessarily the scope of the work.

When you say, "Nixon created it," you give the impression that he created the agency as it is now constituted. That's false.

 

This country cannot survive without exponential growth of bureaucracy.

 

If the election were decided by popular vote, I could grudgingly accept that.

But under an Electoral College system whereby states mean everything, "shitting the bed in a few states" is tantamount to complete failure.

 

"Let them eat Asian carp."

"The carp will pay for the carp removal."

 

It might be warm and moist for all we know.

 

Such a fucking selfish approach. Yeah, let's turn the environment our kids will inherit into a toxic cesspool just to save a few bucks today. Hell, clean air, water and wildlife are for sissies anyways, the future little buggers can just stay inside.

 

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You want to support polluters of our environment, feel free. But don't include Nixon in your revisionist thinking.

The Richard M. Nixon Foundation believes the president knew full well the possible future size, scope and reach of the EPA when it was created, given what it was charged to do.

The EPA's “principal roles and functions:”

• The establishment and enforcement of environmental protection standards consistent with national environmental goals.
• The conduct of research on the adverse effects of pollution and on methods and equipment for controlling it, the gathering of information on pollution, and the use of this information in strengthening environmental protection programs and recommending policy changes.
• Assisting others, through grants, technical assistance and other means in arresting pollution of the environment.
• Assisting the Council on Environmental Quality in developing and recommending to the President new policies for the protection of the environment.

Clearly he envisioned the EPA growing with the times, hence the open-ended mandates and objectives.

RN and the Formation of the EPA » Richard Nixon Foundation

 

Folks in their 70s don't tend to worry about what will happen after they are dead.

 

Remember all those people in the Great Lakes states he claimed to hear, in Michigan, Indiana, Ohio and Wisconsin? All those people he was going to give a voice to? Yeah, right. Stopping Asian carp and protecting the Great Lakes are vital to the Rust Belt being able to pick itself up and thrive again. I've long believed that when drought conditions out west get bad enough in 50-100 years, the population will go to where the water is. Water is going to be the most precious resource. Cutting all federal spending on these efforts would be disastrous.