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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. SnarkShark

    SnarkShark Well-Known Member

    Lots of definitions.

    Urban Dictionary: cheese dick
     
  2. Machine Head

    Machine Head Well-Known Member

    Saw something online that he's going to play Ben Bradlee?
     
  3. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    I think I've nailed it.

    You ARE oop ... in one-sentence bursts and maybe with a little less self-awareness.

    Now you can shut 'er down for 24 hours.
     
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  4. Machine Head

    Machine Head Well-Known Member

    Somebody else can go find Bambi's mom:

    [​IMG]
     
  5. Machine Head

    Machine Head Well-Known Member

    No fucking way!

    Fake news!

    This Administration doesn't fuck things up!
     
  6. HanSenSE

    HanSenSE Well-Known Member

    FIFY.
     
  7. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

  8. Deskgrunt50

    Deskgrunt50 Well-Known Member

    The rollout of the ACA was a disaster.

    The introduction of the supposed replacement is awful, too. Half the republicans hate it.

    Again I say, good luck running on platform of takkng away health is insurance. The states that will be hit the hardest are states that Trump won.
     
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  9. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    How they had six years to come up with a replacement, and still seem to be fumbling around on it, is a disgrace.
    Almost everything about the ACA, from the way it was passed, to the way it was implemented, to the effects it's had on the industry, has been mediocre to bad. That said, it has become the law of the land and people have started to figure out how to work its systems. The time to fight it and dump it was in 2010, not 2017. Now if you're going to repeal and replace it, you'd damn well better have something in mind that doesn't leave the people who have been forced to rely on the ACA in the lurch, and isn't just trading one bad system for another.

    A lot of it goes back to the theory vs. reality argument.
    In theory, repealing Obamacare is easy. Just pass a new law striking it from the books.
    In reality, there are tons of legislative land mines you have to navigate around. Hundreds of regulations and rules that can't just be stripped off the books without throwing the whole health care industry into total chaos. Figuring out how to work through those issues takes time and patience, with a process that'll need to be phased in over time. Unfortuantely, no one on either side seems to be interested in that.
    Republicans want it done now as an "F-You" to Obama.
    Democrats keep poking the bear by saying, in their Stewie Griffin voice, "Sooooo, still workin' on that Obamacare repeal? Gonna roll it back? Come up with something better? Gonna repeal it on day one of Trump's administration? Now we're on Day 50? Awww, you'll sort it out."
    The reality is, it should be done right. And that means doing it slow and having a good plan, not doing it half-assed just to get it done.
     
  10. QYFW

    QYFW Well-Known Member

    LOL.
     
  11. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    The Republicans are split too many ways on this issue to come up with something. Trump made a ridiculous promise he could keep everyone covered and lower insurance costs by waving a magic wand. Republican Governors and some Senators want to keep expanded Medicaid because it helps their budgets and you know, keeps their constituents from dying. And the majority of the House and Senate Republicans would be happy to just repeal ACA, block grant Medicaid, and bankrupt Medicare, because of their ideology that values the accumulation of money above all. Tough to pull those strands together.
    And suppose they could. How would they cut costs without either a) making sure lots of people have less or no insurance coverage or b) limiting the costs of the system itself, that is, limiting the payouts to doctors, nurses, hospitals, insurance and medical technology companies, etc.?
    That was Obama's dilemma. He (rightly I think) saw that the second option was a nonstarter, so chose to expand coverage through the public-private hybrid of the ACA. It's complex and ungainly. Hybrids often are.
     
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  12. micropolitan guy

    micropolitan guy Well-Known Member

    Just give everyone the same health-care benefits Congress enjoys, for the same price. Should work for most working people, then subsidize those who can't, on a sliding scale, by trimming the bloated DOD budget by a few billion or so.

    It's a miracle!
     
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