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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. tapintoamerica

    tapintoamerica Well-Known Member

    What every story failed to specify -- and what the former DA of Law and Order fame wasn't pressed on -- is whether the direct evidence of collusion has been recently discovered.
     
  2. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Jonathan Bernstein of Bloomberg has another good question. How many of the alleged principals have been interviewed by the FBI?
     
  3. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    Wait ... what?
     
  4. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    If people didn't have insurance, doctors couldn't give them prescriptions. Monster in human form.
     
  5. QYFW

    QYFW Well-Known Member

    He's right. You don't know what you're talking about. Opioids aren't like heroin or other "street drugs." Many, if not most, addicts use prescriptions -- legally and illegally -- to feed their habit.
     
  6. UPChip

    UPChip Well-Known Member

    Heroin is an opioid.
     
  7. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

  8. QYFW

    QYFW Well-Known Member

    You know what I'm talking about. The current epidemic centers around pills. Stop being dense.
     
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  9. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    I know what I'm talking about. The current epidemic is of addicts who're getting heroin and fentamyl from pushers after they got addicted to pills. But if they didn't have health insurance, they'd have been in pain and gone out and found the street solution anyway. Insurance isn't to blame for bad doctoring. The idea that if fewer people had insurance, fewer people would get sick is beyond stupid and into delusional. At least YF has the good sense to change the subject before he makes a nasty fool of himself.
     
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  10. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    It is a fine line for a doctor to walk when he tries to prescribe drugs strong enough to relieve chronic pain. He's got to give the patient enough pain relief to work, enough pills to not run out early, while also trying to spot the doctor shopping pill seekers. My doc was pretty good at spotting people who were too polished at giving info, or who pushed hard for controlled drugs on a first visit. We'd pull their rx record, and often as not he'd be right - they'd be getting a couple of controlled Rx from three different doctors at four different drug stores.

    Add in that the FDA is over the doctor's shoulder scrutinizing how much he writes, and that they can hammer him.

    And yes, people got accustomed to prescription painkillers, then the prescriptions were tightened up on, and they went over to heroin. It's generally cheaper than oxycontin anymore. The Mexicans are bringing in a lot more to offset losses due to legal marijuana. They are also manufacturing and distributing Fentanyl, which is killing addicts all over the country, because it is much stronger than what they are used to.

    Bad problem indeed.
     
  11. QYFW

    QYFW Well-Known Member

    Is that what he said?
     
  12. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Insurance gets blamed for everything. Opioids problem stem from pharma pushing them and docs being rated by patients. Ratings go down, they make less money.

    So all the pressure is to give the people the drugs they want.

    I'm sure insurance companies would happily not pay for them.
     
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