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Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by Songbird, Mar 27, 2017.

  1. JakeandElwood

    JakeandElwood Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I don't really see any benefit to this.
     
  2. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    That is exactly what came to my mind when I read the initial post.
     
  3. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

  4. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    That is all kinds of dishonest.

    If you have the $150K to give them as an "entrance fee," it means you have a $150K downpayment for the $200K fictional condo they compare themselves to. Which means you can afford a downpayment of 75 percent, not 20 percent -- i.e., put $150K down instead of $50K. Which means your monthly mortgage payment (using their assumptions) would be more like $188 a month, not $707. Which means your monthly payment on your ownership of the condo is actually $1487 a month, not the BS number they came up with to make it more expensive. Otherwise, they need to account for the income the $100K you are leaving in your pocket with the smaller downpayment will pay you.

    On top of buying the condo costing you significantly less per month using the apples-to-apples comparison that I am doing, you also get (using their assumptions) a $20,672 profit when you sell the condo. Which means the condo is a WAY BETTER deal financially.

    Unless the the "community" services they are selling are worth a lot, they have to be joking. The fact that they did a very dishonest comparison doesn't really speak well for them.
     
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  5. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member


    Someone else who basically agrees said that this model has GOT to be for satisfying some kind of grant requirement because no one is going to put down that much money for that kind of return. I still don't understand it really.
     
    Last edited: Mar 29, 2017
  6. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Also, the 150K is to "invest" in the construction of the building and you get it back, or so they say, when you move out.
     
  7. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    You really have to strain the word "invest" to square that one. Real estate investors get equity in the property . ... for their investment. The more accurate way to look at it. ... you are giving someone an interest-free loan to develop a property. The question then is "What are you getting in return?" From what you have shared. ... not nearly enough.
     
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  8. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

  9. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    I have never been on a planet wheee something like this even remotely made sense.
     
  10. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    I assumed (but maybe wrongly, since the rest of the comparison was dishonest) that they give you reduced-price utilities in return for a large interest-free loan.
     
  11. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    I can't imagine what kind of crazy heat/cooling settings I would have to use to amass a gas/electricity bill of $300.

    I think the highest I've ever paid was about $180.
     
  12. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

    That one immediately stood out to me as well. They make note of things that are included in rent, and make no mention of such a thing in the elec/gas example. I assumed they were accounting for the extra 400 sq ft, but it still seems way too big of a difference.
     
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