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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

  2. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    That's legalized industrial espionage on business travelers. If this goes through, you want to consider dumping your airline stocks. Disney, too.
     
  3. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    If they were writing intelligence summaries in the manner as described, then the intelligence community under President Obama was incredibly politicized.

    What's the reason for even including information that was purely political in nature, and wasn't connected to Russia or an FBI information, in an intelligence summary, let alone writing it in such a way.

    Our source did confirm that Ms. Rice also examined dozens of other intelligence summaries that technically masked Trump official identities but were written in such a way as to make obvious who those officials were. This means that the masking was essentially meaningless. All this is highly unusual—and troubling. Unmasking does occur, but it is typically done by intelligence or law-enforcement officials engaged in antiterror or espionage investigations. Ms. Rice would have had no obvious need to unmask Trump campaign officials other than political curiosity.

    We’re told by a source who has seen the unmasked documents that they included political information about the Trump transition team’s meetings and policy intentions. We are also told that none of these documents had anything to do with Russia or the FBI investigation into ties between Russia and the Trump campaign.
    While we don't know if Ms. Rice requested these dozens of reports, we are told that they were only distributed to a select group of recipients—conveniently including Ms. Rice.


    Susan Rice Unmasked
     
  4. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    What will they do when a traveler shows up with a new phone with no social media apps? Do they refuse entry?
     
  5. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

  6. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    Key phrase of the quote ... "While we don't know if Ms. Rice requested these dozens of reports, ..."
     
  7. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    If only there had been a way to predict that such powers, once granted, would be subject to abuse and politicization...
     
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  8. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    Well, what's right? Who gets to say?

    People who want to have a serious, nuanced, strategic discussion and weigh compromises do not get elected often at any level.
     
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  9. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Yeah. That wouldn't be suspicious at all.

    Can we all admit that we don't have the resources, time, or interest in submitting all foreign travelers to these measures?

    But, for foreigners, who it's been determined need additional screening before we allow them to enter, is there any reason why we shouldn't be able take these steps?

    Just having these tools available will be a deterrent for those who would want to do us harm.
     
  10. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    The search would happen during the visa application process, not at airport. Lots of business travelers have both US cell service accounts and home country accounts, so they or their company could and probably would just buy a phone and keep it in the US somewhere to be picked up on arrival. Not so easy with laptops where confidential communications might be stored.
     
  11. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    A process that's not applied to everybody becomes more vulnerable to a court challenge. Also the inevitable fuckups when Nobel Prize winners, neurosurgeons, etc. are denied entry because of bureaucratic idiocy become more numerous.
     
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  12. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    Higher education makes a good chunk of coin off of foreigners attending schools here.

    It'd be a disaster when budding doctors and physicists - and visiting doctors and physicists! - are getting gridlocked.
     
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