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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

    Frankly, a majority of posters here are probably more well versed in U.S. and global history and more well qualified to be President than that buffoon. At the very least, I'd venture that we're all more intellectually curious than him and would work harder to understand the job.

    I'd have voted for you over that dope.
     
  2. Big Circus

    Big Circus Well-Known Member

  3. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    I just want to know how many genocides Trump thinks it would've taken to prevent it.
     
  4. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Coastal Elites (as well as urban elites in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh): Central Pennsylvania fucking Pennsyltucky. Bunch of backwards, inbred idiots, who don't understand the outside world.

    Guy who hasn't been outside of Central Pennsylvania in 20 years: Yeah!
     
  5. LanceyHoward

    LanceyHoward Well-Known Member

    He was. And in many ways a bad president. I can not defend "the Trail of Tears" even given the attitudes of the times. I think that the National Bank was an undemocratic and imperfect institution but much better than no bank.

    But he had a lot of leadership skills and a sense of patriotism that helped preserve the Union in the 1830's. He also helped democratize American society.
     
  6. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

    BTW, I'm curious because I hadn't seen this Andrew Jackson stuff over the weekend, what in the hell was the context of that interview? Why did they bring up Andrew Jackson?
     
  7. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Yes, especially if you're allowed to:
    1) Label as "Nazi" or "fascist" anyone who disagrees with you.
    2) Define as "violence" the mere presence in your vicinity of this someone.
     
  8. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Talk about damning with faint praise.
     
  9. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    Jesus Christ.

    Richard Fucking Spencer is a fucking Nazi.
     
  10. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    What about Heather MacDonald?
     
  11. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Yes. Of course he was.

    Though, in his defense, he wasn't alone in his beliefs. They were certainly of the time.

    He's also the founder of the modern Democratic Party. He was widely admired by Democrats for over 100 year. Counties all over America named their annual fund raising dinner the Jefferson-Jackson dinner.

    If our new sense of morality means that we can learn nothing about military history, or the history of diplomacy, from those who are defined as racist by today's standards, then we are doing our current leaders a disservice.

    Trump was only expressing admiration for certain traits of Jackson's, and not for his racial beliefs.

    Or maybe we should no longer acknowledge the military brilliance of Sun Tzu since his views on gay marriage and transgender bathroom policy doesn't match the prevailing view in 2017.
     
  12. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    If he visited the Hermitage --as he says he did -- I'm guessing he has some sense of the man's history.
     
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