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What didn't you like?

 

That's fine. As long as you are acknowledging this is another useless witch hunt, as those investigations were.

 

Nah. Those evil fuckers can't be voted out quickly enough. They just voted to kill people. The response should have been stronger.

 

If anything, that graph proves my point. It's steady around 15 percent until 2012-13, when the Supreme Court decision finally affirming Obamacare was handed down (June 2013), and then plunges. So starting in 2013, when it became federal law that you have to have health insurance, of course there's a steep decline in the number of uninsured. If anything, it shows that there's at least 20 million law-abiding people in the country.
Touting the fact that there are now 20 million more people insured than there were in 2010 sounds great, but all it really means is that 20 million people decided it was better to comply with the law than not. If you passed a law requiring everyone to buy a car, the auto industry could tout that they sold 20 million more vehicles over the past decade -- even if the price of a car jumped 10 percent in the process.
It's an empty stat couched in feel-good rhetoric.

 

Wow. You'd think that would have made the ledes of all those stories I'm reading. #modernjournalism

 

So very stupid. As Curly said in City Slickers, "Day ain't over yet." Whether celebrating a partial victory with their deranged leader (Republicans) or predicting the demise of opponents (Democrats), public displays such as these are never helpful.

 

Ignore it all you want. People would die under this system. People that would otherwise live.

Thankfully, this won't pass in the Senate.

But every asshole who voted for this is going to have to wear it like a scarlet FU in the 2018 midterms. The campaign ads write themselves.

 

Even Daily Kos is holding back from the mass murder charge.

Sign the petition: F*ck House Republicans

 

Hold on here. You said Obamacare's impact has leveled off and that its impact has already reached its peak. Chart suggests that is not the case.

 

Not really. The vast majority of the reduction in the uninsured rate can be attributed to: 1) people getting onto employer-sponsored plans; and then 2) people either becoming eligible for (or acting on their eligibility for) Medicaid. One of the really astonishing things that happened post-ACA is how many people decided to get on Medicaid when they'd already long been eligible.

 

People die under the current system, people who would otherwise live.

Run this one through your head: Cash for Clunkers killed people.

 

Heck, it's not even a law to have health insurance. People decided to comply not based on the law, but on the resultant tax liability.