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More Cuts at ESPN

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Doc Holliday, Mar 7, 2017.

  1. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    I saw this in the WSJ this morning, and I immediately had the same thought. But 1) he states early on that he worked for ESPN in two different stints (and it is part of the strained purpose of the column), and more importantly ,2) it was on the op-ed page. They frequently have stuff like this on their opinion pages -- it is pretty clear it is opinion, from where it appears.
     
  2. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    True. That the column is specious in the extreme is not disqualifying for any op-ed section in the land. That's why I'd get rid of one if I owned a paper.
     
  3. CD Boogie

    CD Boogie Well-Known Member

    He gives Deadspin too much credit by half. The influence they might have really had is in a outlet he doesn't mention at all: twitter. that's where columnists and talking heads might have curved their persona a certain way. He doesn't give any specific syllogistic instances of where Deadspin did A and ESPN responded by doing B. It's all supposition. Thought-provoking, but ultimately it lacks homework. Like, why not interview people who have just been let go by ESPN? Instead it's all his impression, which is text book Whitlock: no leg work.
     
  4. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    There is no way to prove this, but take away Deadspin sniping at ESPN over the years and I suspect ESPN is still facing the same exact issues right now, to the same exact degree.
     
  5. Fran Curci

    Fran Curci Well-Known Member

    Right. Did Deadspin convince people to cut their cable service and rely on Hulu/Amazon Prime/Netflix? Hardly.
     
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  6. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    The trouble with media reporting/commenting on media is that all members, me included, have a natural belief that our words and deeds, and hence the words and deeds of media institutions, have more effect on events than is actually the case.
     
  7. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    I think that is referred to as "believing your own press releases."
     
  8. Sports Barf

    Sports Barf Well-Known Member

    How did Whitlock deduct that Werder saying he was told the cuts wouldn't be based on talent is an indicator that the cuts were politically motivated? Does that seem thin to anybody else? "Your contract IS expensive, but I want you to know you're being laid off because you're not tweeting enough inane political takes".
     
  9. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    The piece didn't make that conclusion. ... about the cuts being politically motivated.

    It was the last paragraph:

    I think the gist of what he was saying there, even though it was lost in a misplaced Trump comparison in the paragraph before, was that ESPN became less concerned about the quality of its product than it did with the image it is trying to project. i.e. -- a good reporter like Ed Werder was expendable, because the "good reporter" part isn't what matters.
     
  10. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Rip's opinion is noted and given the lack of respect it deserves. Yours is given even less.
     
  11. cisforkoke

    cisforkoke Well-Known Member

     
  12. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    @Riptide doesn't stand alone here.

    It's the consensus of your colleagues.

    I've accepted this. Why can't you?
     
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