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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. Moderator1

    Moderator1 Moderator Staff Member

    Fortunately, I don't run into many. But there are a few and they love their guy still, maybe more. As someone noted above, how many of our Trumpians here have said they regret their vote? Pretty sure it is none. I have Facebook friends who voted for him and to this day they're all YEAH DONALD. He could shit in their cereal and they'd be YEAH DONALD.

    Those who hated him still do.
    Those who loved him still do.
    I've seen zero movement on either side.
     
    Moderator1, May 10, 2017
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  2. Machine Head

    Machine Head Well-Known Member

    Remember when Trump ran his mouth recently about the Canadian lumber and milk industries, just to gin up his base?

    The Canucks decided enough is enough and have taken action. We've lost Peanuts, a national treasure:

    Canada-based DHX Media Ltd. announced Wednesday it signed an agreement to buy the entertainment division of Iconix Brand Group Inc. in a $345 million deal that would include Iconix’s majority stake in the Peanuts and Strawberry Shortcake brands.

    Canadian company buys majority stake in Peanuts brand
     
    Machine Head, May 10, 2017
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  3. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    The level of rage, anger and ugliness on the right is simply better-developed and thus worse than it is on the left. I don't write that as some dye-in-the-wool liberal, either. I write that as someone deeply saddened at what America's discourse - as dictated by Fox News, right-wing talk radio and right-wing blogs - has become.

    The right is worse than the left. It's absolutely a value judgment, and, IMO, the correct. The right is more to blame. The right gave up Trump.
     
    Alma, May 10, 2017
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  4. SnarkShark

    SnarkShark Well-Known Member

    To be fair, the books also made Hillary a commanding favorite.

     
    SnarkShark, May 10, 2017
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  5. SnarkShark

    SnarkShark Well-Known Member

    Dude, you're on TV.
     
    SnarkShark, May 10, 2017
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  6. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Don't forget one thing. Trump supporters start off as a minority. He needs to grow his support. He has lost it. Every poll, every one, shows that independents have lower support for him than in the election. It's the people who voted for Trump but didn't make a big deal of it, and what they think that's important.
     
    Michael_ Gee, May 10, 2017
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  7. JohnHammond

    JohnHammond Well-Known Member

    Disenfranchised, gerrymandering, the Russians!!

    It's election night all over again.
     
    JohnHammond, May 10, 2017
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  8. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    This can't be forgotten. Trump's coalition had some weird spikes and dips, but in total it wasn't a bigger share of the vote than several recent Republican losers.

    That said, if he wants to run again in 2020, it'll be harder. If he survives that long, he'll have been normalized and a lot of the McMuffin Republicans will be back on board.
     
    RickStain, May 10, 2017
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  9. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    The support Trump loses will be because he's deemed incompetent.

    I think most people who voted for him are comfortable with him being an asshole, including some who didn't. In this America, being an asshole is a great strength of his. We respect villains more than conflicted protagonists.
     
    Alma, May 10, 2017
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  10. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    He will get a primary challenge. It'll happen.
     
    Alma, May 10, 2017
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  11. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    I don't want to predict 2020. I have said all along that (not just today) that I gave it maybe 50/50 odds that he finished one term. But there is no way he gets reelected if he makes it that far, barring the democrats somehow renominating Hilary Clinton, and even if that happened, I suspect she'd win next time around. You are going to see a field of about 750 governors, senators, congresspeople, etc. launching campaigns, because they are seeing the most beatable incumbent president ever. Trump's support amounts to maybe 30, 35 percent of the population. Something sickly low. And that support is predicated on populist blather, not any kind of conviction about anything. When those people's lives still suck, and someone else making shiny promises comes along, none of those people in the Rust Belt have any reason to love Donald Trump. They know he is a bullshit artist and a jerk. They were never for Trump because of some inherent love for HIM. They were AGAINST more of the same and latched onto him as a giant FU.
     
    The Big Ragu, May 10, 2017
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  12. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    I did a lot of overhead presses during the break. And be careful what you assume about that break, particularly as regards whether it was voluntary or not.
     
    doctorquant, May 10, 2017
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