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Does anyone disagree that the President said he wished the FBI would stop investigating how much Russians interfered with the election?

 

He wanted Trump/Russia to go away. All he is concerned with is the part that affects or inconveniences him.

If a side of that is that the investigation of how much penetration of our electoral system the Russians achieved, he really isn't interested. As Comey testified, Trump never asked the first question regarding any of that. He just wanted Flynn to be given a pass for his own unspecified (other than "he's a good guy") reasons.

 

He wanted it to end because there was nothing to it.

He also wanted the FBI to publicly state what they had told him privately -- that he wasn't personally under investigation and that the Times article alleging nearly continuous contact between his campaign and Russian intelligence officials was full of shit.

But he also wanted to know if anyone in his orbit -- of his satellites -- had done anything wrong.

Most of all, he wanted resolution, because a prolonged investigation was hampering his ability to lead. This is no different than what Hillary Clinton and her supporters were demanding.

 

That's my point. It shouldn't be considered a partisan issue. I imagine the Russians have been hacking us and other countries since the beginning of the Internet. Maybe they feared a McCain presidency helped Obama get elected?

The Obama administration made what I considered good-faith efforts to address the situation were blocked by special interest groups.

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Oh look it's a reinterpretation of Trump's words and actions that are not in the slightest bit supported by the facts. Again.

 

Fair enough.

 

Bullshit.

The media was trying to paint Trump as personally involved in a crime. They were using selective leaks, from political opponents to do so.

Trump knew -- directly from the director and deputy director of the FBI -- that he wasn't under personal investigation and that the Times article, and others, were false.

But, when he tried to get officials to publicly state this, the efforts were portrayed as evidence of his guilt, especially when the public statements were not forthcoming.

And, the media never tried to report the facts in this instance. The facts would have been counter to their narrative, so suddenly they had no sources, and relied on innuendo.

Of course this was a major contributor to Trump's frustration with the investigation and with Comey personally. It's why he called him a grandstander.

 

You make interesting and lucid points. However, it's like reading Bob Herbert defend David Dinkins; when considering the the source the opinions seem hallow

 

No.

Also wrong.

Intentionally misleading. Being "personally under investigation" or not is irrelevant. There's no magic power to an investigatory body declaring "I'm Investigating You" and putting your name at the top of a form.

Pressuring officials to make public statements that go against their investigatory policy for personal political gain? I'll mark this down as the day that you admitted Trump obstructed justice. Not that you'll ever admit you admitted it.

Nope to all of that too.

 

No. #Savedyouaclick

 

I'd hate to see how defensive Trumpists would be if he actually was "under personal investigation."

 

The AG ordered Comey to call the Clinton investigation a "matter", using the term their campaign had been using. This was done for political gain, and allowed the Clinton campaign to pretend they were using the same language as the FBI, not the other way around.

And Comey went along with it.

That's worse than anything that's been alleged against Trump.