President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

It's notable that the latest revelations didn't come from a leak, but from reviewing disclosure forms regarding Kushner's security clearance. The NYT got confirmation from, what, five administration folks before reporting. Seems like Trump's people are very eager to get ahead of this by showing "cooperation."

Also, Donald Jr. went way out of his way to shelter his daddy on this. That leads me to believe that dad NEEDS to be sheltered from whatever it was that Junior, Manafort and Kushner discussed with the Russians - who, despite being our buddies in this bold new world, may still be putting their own interests ahead of our own.

 

May God strike us down if we ever forget how many hypothetical guns hypothetical Obama took away. It was a hypothetical constitutional nightmare.

People forget it ever didn't happen. How short the memory of the reality-based can be.

 

Employing. LOL.

They paid a foreign national to dig up dirt on Trump. That foreign national paid Russians. They created a document filled with unverified rumors. The media then published these rumors, and the FBI used them as the basis of an investigation into the Trump campaign.

And that's totally fine. LOL.

The only mistake I see in all of this is the refusal to say immediately that, "yeah, we met with folks who said they might have damaging info we could use against Hillary Clinton."

The other side of this is, of course, that campaigns are under no obligation to disclose every meeting they have.

And, I know this is going to make you all lose your collective minds, but in even the least favorable view, there is nothing illegal about Trump taking the meeting.

This whole thing is another nothing burger.

In his statement, Trump Jr. said he was approached about the meeting by an acquaintance he knew from the 2013 Miss Universe pageant.

He did not name the acquaintance, but in an interview Sunday, Rob Goldstone, a music publicist who is friendly with Trump Jr., told The Washington Post that he had arranged the meeting at the request of a Russian client and had attended it along with Veselnitskaya.

Goldstone has been active with the Miss Universe pageant and works as a manager for Emin Agalarov, a Russian pop star whose father is a wealthy Moscow developer who sponsored the pageant in the Russian capital in 2013.

Goldstone would not name the client. He said Veselnitskaya wanted to discuss ways that Trump could be helpful about the Russian government’s adoption issue should he be elected president.

“Once she presented what she had to say, it was like, ‘Can you keep an eye on it? Should [Trump] be in power, maybe that’s a conversation that he may have in the future?’ ” Goldstone said.

In the Sunday interview, Goldstone did not describe the conversation about Clinton or indicate that he had told Trump Jr. that he could provide information helpful to the campaign. He did not respond to a second request for comment late Sunday. Likewise, a spokeswoman for Donald Trump Jr. did not respond when asked whether Goldstone was the acquaintance to whom the president’s son was referring.

 

Notice the difference between foreign national and representative of foreign government is ignored for propping up the wildly wrong "it wasn't illegal" talking point.

 

You keep bringing this up.

Just to clarify, that foreign national is Christopher Steele? The former intelligence agent of one of our allies?

And that "dirt" is the dossier that was paid for by #NeverTrump Republicans during the primary?

 

Allies? Steele is Russian?

 

Remember when being under FBI investigation was disqualifying and not just proof of how unfair your enemies are?

 

And, ohbytheway, where is the link between the Democratic Party and the company that contracted Steele to investigate?

All I see are links to Trump's primary opponents.

 

Way to invade the privacy of a victim's family!

Kate Steinle’s father: We didn’t coin ‘Kate’s Law’

 

Good luck proving that the Russian lawyer was a representative of a foreign government.

 

Oh, I know. The entire thing is hidden under the thinnest of deniabilities that wouldn't have a prayer of holding up in front of an impartial arbitrator, but are enough for completely honorless people to hide behind because laundry.