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Do we not have a running 2017 golf thread?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by BitterYoungMatador2, May 26, 2017.

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  1. hondo

    hondo Well-Known Member

    It's going to be May 16-19 and PGA said it will always be the week after Mother's Day.
     
    hondo, Aug 8, 2017
    #133
  2. hondo

    hondo Well-Known Member

    1. Your first contention is something you'd never be able to prove and I would bet real money you'd be wrong. I'm pretty sure you'd get to fan No. 3 or 4 before someone said McIlroy.
    2. How you view the golf season is not how everyone else does.
     
    hondo, Aug 8, 2017
    #134
  3. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    Here's this year's schedule and where things might get moved, post-West Coast Swing, which now ends the second-to-last weekend of February since the Match Play was moved:

    Honda (ended Feb. 26)
    WGC Mexico (March 5)
    Valspar (March 12)
    Palmer (March 19)
    WGC Match Play (March 26)
    Houston (April 2)
    Masters (April 9).

    Masters is fixed to end on the second Sunday in April. Valspar seems to be the victim here and the Palmer could really suffer unless a WGC gets moved out of this rotation. Guessing the Players would go three weeks before the Masters, though in the past, IIRC, it was two weeks before Augusta. Another factor for the Players: It now will get played during March Madness instead of a nice slot in early May.

    Hilton Head (April 16)
    San Antonio (April 23)
    New Orleans (April 30)
    Quail Hollow (May 7)
    Players (May 14)
    Nelson (May 21)
    Colonial (May 28)
    Memorial (June 4)
    Memphis (June 11)
    U.S. Open (June 18)

    U.S. Open is fixed to end on the third Sunday in June. Memorial is a great tuneup two weeks before the U.S. Open and will stay put. Split up the Nelson and Colonial and stick the PGA in between to end the third Sunday in May? Pretty sure they don't want Memorial Day weekend, but that breaks up the Dallas Metroplex two-step.

    Hartford (June 25)
    Quicken Loans (July 2)
    Greenbrier (July 9)
    Deere (July 16)
    British Open (July 23)

    Easy here. Same rotation. The Open ends near the third Sunday in July.

    Canadian (July 30)
    WGC Akron (Aug. 6)
    PGA (Aug. 13)
    Greensboro (Aug. 20)
    Playoffs: Northern Trust (Aug. 27)
    Playoffs: Boston (Sept. 4)
    Playoffs: BMW (Sept. 17)
    Playoffs: Atlanta (Sept. 24)

    If they dump one round of the playoffs and take over the PGA slot, they can finish on Labor Day. But do you drop the Northern Trust in the New York market and keep Greensboro? Or move Greensboro to the fall?

    It will be very interesting to see it all shake out, but a couple of tournament directors are a bit nervous -- or have been for the past couple of years.
     
    MileHigh, Aug 8, 2017
    #135
  4. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    MileHigh, Aug 8, 2017
    #136
  5. playthrough

    playthrough Moderator Staff Member

    Boston is going to be the odd one out in the three-tournament FedExCup scenarios. Northern Trust is locked for the next five years as the opener, BMW is booked for the next few years and Atlanta isn't going anywhere.

    Good analysis @MileHigh. I agree that Palmer stands to suffer quite a bit. The Tour has propped it up as best they can with a bigger purse and more perks for the winner, but it's going to be surrounded by can't-miss events for the elite guys.
     
    playthrough, Aug 8, 2017
    #137
  6. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    With Arnie gone, the Palmer is going to suffer, like the Nelson has of late. I think the wild card in all of this is the Match Play. It's different and I'm a fan of it, but it's not exactly a good thing to have in the middle of four months of majors tuneups. But then again, the WGCs, outside of the Match Play, do nothing for me.
     
    MileHigh, Aug 8, 2017
    #138
  7. Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!!

    Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!! Well-Known Member

    Greenbrier Classic is moving to late-summer/fall.
     
    Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!!, Aug 8, 2017
    #139
  8. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    As a marketing deal, it seems weird to take Boston out of the Tour. The window to have an event here is shorter than most places, so if TPC Norton loses a playoff spot, I'm not sure when they could squeeze in a regular Tour stop. Fall schedule is chancy, and anything before mid-May is nearly impossible. People play in the spring cold, wet and wind, I do, for instance, but damned if I'll stand in it for hours to watch golf.
     
    Michael_ Gee, Aug 9, 2017
    #140
  9. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Further point. Think of the cities we're talking about possibly losing Tour stops. Dallas, Orlando, Boston. These are among the biggest golf markets in the country. This is to accommodate the WGC. I'm not sure this is a good growth strategy. I don't care what happens in the next 20 years geoecomically. In 2037, I'm sure there will still me more golfers in Orlando than in Shanghai or Mexico City.
     
    Michael_ Gee, Aug 9, 2017
    #141
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  10. playthrough

    playthrough Moderator Staff Member

    It's all about the sponsors. Denver dropped off the Tour when the International couldn't get backing. Disney didn't put up a fight to keep its event. The Tour doesn't chase golf markets, it chases the money.
     
    playthrough, Aug 9, 2017
    #142
  11. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    There is a lot of big corporate money in all three cities I named. If the Tour can't find sponsors with deep enough pockets there, it is because potential sponsors don't think the Tour offers much ROI. THAT'S what should worry them in Ponte Vedra, not the damn schedule.
     
    Michael_ Gee, Aug 9, 2017
    #143
  12. BitterYoungMatador2

    BitterYoungMatador2 Well-Known Member

    It's never bothered them and they don't care. I watched 84 Lumber pump tons of money in the Mystic Rock course at Nemacolin after the Tour told them they'd get a May tour stop if they did X,Y and Z. They went above and beyond and were told....sike. Pretty sure that's when they created the FedEx Cup and a few Tour stops were screwed in the process. Booz Allen was given similar treatment despite D.C. supporting that event for years, although the scrambled, got Tiger's foundation involved and created the then-AT&T National.
     
    BitterYoungMatador2, Aug 9, 2017
    #144
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