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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. Justin_Rice

    Justin_Rice Well-Known Member

    Your life will probably be improved when you finally turn off partisan commentators.
     
  2. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    This is dumb. The rainbow flag doesn't represent any hatred or subjugation of any other group of people.
     
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  3. Stoney

    Stoney Well-Known Member

    You're an awful person.
     
  4. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    Part of the whole problem (actually most) that has festered for 150 years now, is that it wasn't made crystal clear enough who lost the goddamn war.
     
  5. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    What? You mean those heterosexual Christians who think America is going to hell if gays get wedding cakes aren't being subjugated?
     
  6. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    "History and heritage" is code for "the lies we told ourselves about white supremacy, when we called it American exceptionalism."
     
  7. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    Trump was talking about Confederate monuments - since they are the ones being removed right now across the nation.

    And it's not "the media" trying to take away "history and heritage." It's the people pointing out our history and heritage is chock full of doing shitty things to people of color.
     
  8. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Man, YF is stacking the bullshit high on this one, old and new manure mixing to create quite the stench of dishonesty.

    Nobody is trying to erase history. That is just the hysterical nonsense being pushed by racists. Let's give YF the benefit of the doubt and assume he is just trolling here or he is being duped.
     
  9. service_gamer

    service_gamer Well-Known Member

    Sure, he's not specifying Civil War monuments. He's just trying to blur the line, create a "First they came for the Confederate monuments and I said nothing..." situation.

    I'm not sure how the left wants to reshape our history. Taking down monuments to people whose actions, in retrospect, don't deserve celebration doesn't seem that bad to me, even if it reeks of a symbolic, self-congratulatory gesture for SJWs. If anything, these statues are distorting history. Clinging to the CSA has allowed people to downplay the evils of slavery, shirk ownership of a treasonous heritage, and confuse people on the party lines of the Civil War era, early 20th century, and now.

    The CSA statues are of racist Democrats, put up by racist Democrats who all became Republicans the moment the Democrats wised up on civil rights. Do you think that the average dolt waving a rebel flag would be cool with your characterization?
     
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  10. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Sure, but what other flags would be allowed?

    Could a Catholic or a Jew fly the Vatican or Israeli flag?
     
  11. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

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  12. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Depending on how the school interprets that whole separation of church and state, sure, why not?

    We're allowed to differentiate between the meanings of symbols. Confederate symbols mean one thing. It's time we stopped giving a flying fuck about the idiots and not-quite-hidden racists who pretend otherwise.
     
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