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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    A pardon also does not protect the recipient from civil liability for the acts for which he or she was pardoned.
     
  2. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    And, whose "crimes" was he covering for?

    Dick Armitage?
     
  3. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Duh. Neither does an acquittal.
     
  4. franticscribe

    franticscribe Well-Known Member

    Amazing to me how much people are hung up on the pardon. Is Joe Arpaio an unrepentant racist asshole who used the authority of his office to violate the constitutional rights of citizens and non-citizens in his community? Undoubtedly. Does that change after the pardon? No.

    Sure, it shows that our president has contempt for the constitution and the rule of law, but we already knew that. It is also indisputably within his power to use the pardon in this way.

    This is the equivalent of the NCAA vacating a team's record, including championships, because of an ineligible player. The record may have been wiped, but we all still know what happened.
     
  5. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Oh, you and all your "expertise" ...
     
  6. typefitter

    typefitter Well-Known Member

    Um, it means he doesn't go to jail for his crimes?
     
  7. franticscribe

    franticscribe Well-Known Member

    He wasn't going to do anywhere near enough time to equal justice for his actions to begin with. The maximum sentence would have been six months.
     
  8. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

  9. typefitter

    typefitter Well-Known Member

    Six months is more than zero months. Now it means he's going completely unpunished for his crimes. That's why people are upset. It's the equivalent of asking why the family of a murder victim is upset that the murderer got pardoned. Most people expect people who do bad things to be punished for them. It's kind of how society works.
     
  10. QYFW

    QYFW Well-Known Member

    There is not a rolly-eye emoticon large enough for this reply.
     
  11. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Trump isn't the owner or developer of the property, and the workers are employed by a local construction company, but, hey, scandal:

     
  12. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

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