I thought they would have had a better career...

Ya mean music snobs? I graduated from college in 1995, so was right there for the so-called first wave of alternative as a freshman in college. Nevermind and Ten both came out my freshman year. Friends and I enjoyed them both (though Pearl Jam more). But we also enjoyed STP and Green Day.

I guess if I were reading Rolling Stone music reviews and the like I might have cared about a so-called second wave. But I wasn't bc music reviews are garbage anyway. I'd rather read a whiskey review while someone is reciting endless wine reviews to me. There are few things with more unintentional comedy than music reviews.

 

Nevermind was released when I was in 7th grade, so that wave of music was the first that felt like "ours."

The difference likely stems from a lack of knowledge of "real" punk music. Even the aforementioned "hipsters," really had only just been exposed to punk music when Green Day hit, maybe just before. I doubt many of them had a deep enough appreciation of the genre to feel like Green Day was an inauthentic punk band. And the ones who didn't like them just didn't care enough to hate them.

 

Correct.

 

When punk became a "thing" after Green Day broke, my friends and I would go buy some of the compilation discs that came out featuring bands like Pennywise, NOFX, and Rancid (whose lead singer and Billie Joe Armstrong are actually good pals from way back). Some of that stuff was definitely a lot faster and more aggressive than most of "Dookie."

That said, the band that full-throttle punk Green Day sounds most like is the Ramones, and you don't hear anyone griping about them.

 

I saw Green Day in NYC in the winter and they put on a great show. Anyone who thinks they're faux punk can go make love to their GG Allin posters.

 

It didn't help Green Day's reputation out of the box that their big hits usually came off as novelty departures ("Longview," "Basket Case"), pop ("When I Come Around"), or one-offs ("Good Riddance," "Brain Stew"). They were releasing punk albums with two or three radio hits tossed in and I'm sure that rubbed some the wrong way.

 

I think many actors who make it big in "teen" films have a hard time making it to the next level. Molly Ringwald, Matthew Broderick, Andrew McCarthy (heck most of the Brat Pack). I figured Spader and Cusack would be Oscar regulars.. I don't know if filmmakers just "see" them as high school students or what.



Also in Taps? A younger Gus Fring (Giancarlo Esposito).

 

From the 1980s, I thought Big Country, the Bangles and Lone Justice were gonna be big, big, big.

But BC got trapped into a formula while the Bangles and Lone Justice both fell into the lead-singer-wants-to-be-a-superstar traps.

 

Dale Jr.
Joba Chamberlain (inj)
Alex Gordon
Sergio Garcia

On deck: Ben Simmons, Leonard Fournette and Lamar Jackson.

 

I was tempted to put Elizabeth McGovern into that category, but she's had a solid career and did well with Downton Abbey.

 

Me too on Ron Dayne. I remember saying during that draft "Gimme Ron Dayne and I'll go ahead and start my football team." What an idiot.

 

I had a great tretise on why manning would flop that involved 20 years of the colts missing on high round qbs, his dad being a losing qb and the general failure of recent Tennessee qbs stinking in the pros.