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The Big Ball Theory

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Chef2, Mar 14, 2017.

  1. Jake_Taylor

    Jake_Taylor Well-Known Member

    Uh, he can't and he doesn't.
     
  2. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    In NCAAland, cashing in on your athletic fame in any way means you're a professional and you aren't eligible because you are sullying the purity of "amateur" athletics.
     
  3. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    I can't stand pops. He a cretin. But if he pays his son's tuition and the son doesn't collect pay from outside his family, the Ball family will break the NCAA.

    Do Phil Knight's grandchildren forfeit the ability to play D1 because Nike pays their way?
     
  4. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    There's still the NCAA regs on using your athletic ability for publicity. Even if the player supposedly doesn't get paid, the NCAA and schools still demand that the kid's likeness belongs to them.

    It is interesting, however, if the kid does play in college and Dad tells him not to wear any corporate logos. The NCAA and schools will have their heads explode.
     
  5. PCLoadLetter

    PCLoadLetter Well-Known Member

    (a) If you'd like to defend the NCAA's position on this one, fire away. I think it's damn close to impossible. LaVar is absolutely right in this particular fight.

    (b) LaVar Ball is an asshole, but an entertaining asshole. I still find all of the pearl-clutching hilarious.
     
  6. Stoney

    Stoney Well-Known Member

    What the hell makes you think that?

    No, that's not how it works. If ruled ineligible, then you're ineligible. Period. Doesn't matter who's paying tuition, you still can't play.
     
    Last edited: Sep 3, 2017
  7. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    If he's not taking a grant package from the University, essentially he's a walk on, non scholarship athlete. As long as he's not being paid to attend school to play a sport, he can probably do what he wants. If the NCAA tries to interfere, in the end, they will be out of luck, as long as he's a non scholarship athlete. NCAA rules be damned, they can't prevent a kid from attending and playing as long as he's not being paid, AND his family is paying his tuition.
     
  8. Stoney

    Stoney Well-Known Member

    You are just clueless and wrong. This scholarship/walk on distinction you keep harping on is utterly irrelevant to the issue here.

    The issue is whether this compromises his amateur status. If a player is ruled ineligible to play on those grounds, then he ineligible to play NCAA ball for the time period covered by the ruling. Period. Doesn't matter if he's a walk on or on scholly, he's still ineligible. This isn't one of those things you can end run around by paying your own bills.
     
    Last edited: Sep 3, 2017
  9. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    I get what the NCAA rule is, but I don't think it will hold up today if there is an absense of quid pro quo. The NCAA gets to set the rules because you take a benefit, the scholarship. Without the benefit, the consideration, conferred there is no contract, the rule doesn't apply. That's the theory. The Big Ball Theory. The NCAA can't prevent a players' father from Making money
     
  10. Jake_Taylor

    Jake_Taylor Well-Known Member

    It's a fool's errand to try to predict how the NCAA will rule from case to case. But Ball deciding to pay his own tuition wouldn't change anything. That was my point. If I'm wrong, maybe a Kansas booster can hire Zion Williamson as a model who also happens to walk on to a certain basketball team in Lawrence. I'd be down with that.

    There's a lot of things people with time and money could fight the NCAA on, but for the one-and-done's it's not worth the time, and for everybody else it's rarely worth the money.
     
  11. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    Under this theory, LeBron James could go walk on at Ohio State.
     
  12. wicked

    wicked Well-Known Member

    He's already looking at transferring to USC.
     
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