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Jemele and Mike

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Songbird, Feb 3, 2017.

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  1. CD Boogie

    CD Boogie Well-Known Member

    It's a comment that comes from a place of privilege. She might be a black female in trump's America, but she has a perch of privilege. In as much as Beyoncé or Oprah do. Doubt you'd see a black lunch lady making that comment. If she thinks sports are a waste of time in this climate, then maybe she should quit her job and go work for something more weighty. Or maybe she could actually use her privileged perch to say something that resonates. That makes people think. Instead, she just repeated what a lot of people already think. If you're gonna go out on a limb, ya might as well do something on the limb. Instead all we are really talking about is her past and her future. Her present is simply an HR question.
     
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  2. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    That's about the best way I've seen it stated yet.
     
  3. Moderator1

    Moderator1 Moderator Staff Member

    Yeah, I should just go ahead and name this Politics2 and be done with it. Lucky for everyone I'm such a happy guy. Anyway, since Charles Pierce has been discussed, we just published this from him on the Hill/White House deal.

    You guys behave JUST a little and maybe stop taking cheap shots at the moderators and maybe just maybe we smile and open up the other one. Maybe. Depends on if my lottery ticket hits or my dinner tonight is as good as I think it will be. Or if just a couple of you stop being assholes. The overwhelming majority of you folks I truly, truly love. Truly. Love.

    Call for Jemele Hill's firing is nonsense
     
  4. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    When he talks to me like my dad did when I was 3, I could just hug the stuffin's out of him. ;)
     
  5. UPChip

    UPChip Well-Known Member

    Actually, given the subject matter, I think we should go with

    politics2

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  6. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

  7. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    Lovely writing. Of course it's accurate that the White House should have better things to do than to opine on whether Jemele Hill is employed.

    I have to wonder - I have no choice but to wonder - whether Pierce writes this corresponding piece if he doesn't agree, in entirety, with Hill's premise.

    Jemele Hill, the gifted young woman who co-hosts ESPN’s The Six every night with my old Morrissey Boulevard running buddy Michael Smith, got on her electric Twitter machine and tweeted out her unremarkable—and damned near irrefutable—opinion that the current president of the United States is a racist and a white supremacist.

    and

    "I agreed with everything Hill tweeted. I thought what she said should be obvious to everyone in America at this point."

    When a journalist suggests it's "unremarkable" for a sports show host to go on a rant about Trump, his cabinet and his voters - labeling the first two and suggesting the latter are all comprised of white supremacists - well, it's his opinion, and that's all it is. It's remarkable.

    (And, once more, I still believe Hill's definition of white supremacy is not the "he's a neo-Nazi" perspective. I think she's embracing the emergent definition of white supremacy that says if you're not actively protesting the Trump administration, you're contributing to white supremacy.)
     
  8. Elliotte Friedman

    Elliotte Friedman Moderator Staff Member

    Hold on a second. I don't know what's been written since this post, because I am replying immediately.

    Alma, you are completely wrong on this take.

    Ive been where this guy is. He's devastated. He's embarrassed. He's crushed.

    The smartest thing I did at that point was turn off social media. It was hard, but I needed to go into "the bubble." He couldn't. He shouldn't have done the video, but his world is collapsing around him. I hope none of you guys ever feel like he does at that moment. It has nothing to do with narcissism. It has everything to do with feeling awful -- the lowest he could feel professionally -- and trying to stop the wolves. Of course, that only makes it worse.

    The diversity angle is bad, too. As I write this now, there is no evidence he is a diversity hire. For all we know, he was good enough to do the job and had an awful moment. But, because he has a Spanish-sounding name, it's "diversity."

    Ridiculous.
     
  9. tapintoamerica

    tapintoamerica Well-Known Member

    And the last straw for Schilling was retweeting a visually disturbing and highly insensitive image. That image conveyed a level of vitriol about a group of people. Hill's comments were directed at one person because of his words and actions, not because of status or physical traits.
     
  10. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Pierce is turning into a caricature.
     
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  11. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

  12. tapintoamerica

    tapintoamerica Well-Known Member

    Fascinating that a Republican administration is telling a private business what to do. Because, you know, the GOP has such a long history of supporting governmental intervention and regulation of business.
     
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