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I don't think the bill of rights can be amended.

 

Any word, clause, sentence or paragraph in the Constitution can be amended.

 

One of the most common arguments against universal health coverage is that it is the government forcing people to work for other people, and therefore immoral. Of course that logic applies to emergency services, it is just politically unpalatable to admit it.

 

I stand corrected.

 

He's probably just busy trying to find things that Obama or Hillary or some other liberal said or did that are more or less the same thing that Trump or some other conservative had done.

 

To be fair - just because gun ownership is a right - doesn't mean the government gives everyone guns.

 

My proposed amendment to the Preamble -- "We the real 'muricans" -- has gotten no traction on Capitol Hill.

 

We know eye witness accounts are often wrong, but in this case, in lieu of actual reporting we'll rely on "ear witness" reporting.

By reporting that he had "automatic weapons" there is an implication that he was either able to thwart the laws that tightly control access to such guns, or that Las Vegas/Nevada laws made acquiring such weapons easier. (They don't, because federal law applies.)

As it turns out, he did not have an automatic weapon. He appears to have used a legal device, and made no illegal modifications to the gun(s).

So, as we've seen before, it looks like YankeeFan was correct to doubt the initial reports, but the journalists here are going with the idea that the facts don't matter, the point remains, and YankeeFan is wrong.

So, unless there is some reporting that he did have a fully automatic weapon, or made an illegal modification, folks should stop saying he had one.

I think it was @Inky_Wretch who speculated early on that he may have used a bump stock. Props to him.

I'll bet fewer of our audiophiles here, who insisted it was a fully automatic weapon (or had been illegally modified), were familiar with a bump stock than knew who S.I. Newhouse was.

 

Of course we can "touch" the Second Amendment. The process for how to repeal it is spelled out in the Constitution, and has been used on previous occasions.

 

This is what is really important here, @YankeeFan feels he was right.

Scoreboard.

 

Why don't we just rely on good old reporting?

Did he have a fully automatic weapon, or make an illegal modification or not? This is a simple question.

I don't know why you guys -- journalists after all -- get offended by calls for specificity, and fight on when proven wrong.

Also, while not at all minimizing what happened, many of the injured were not shot. A lot of people were injured in the stamped.

Look at this picture. It's easy to see how he could have shot a lot of people. There was no where to go. They were packed in like sardines, and any attempt by the crowd to flee would certainly result in injuries.

 

And that's the ultimate problem. You can't legislate or plan around the will of the people. And the will of a whole lot of the American people is some pretty fucked up shit that the rest of the world wouldn't put up with. Perhaps this is just the inevitable fallout from founding your country with whatever creepy religious kooks were too creepy to keep around 17th century Europe.