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Shooting at Las Vegas casino

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by melock, Oct 2, 2017.

  1. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    Similar to my other question on the psych profiles, how much ammo is "too much, too quickly?"
    They sell handgun ammo in boxes of 50 and it's not too hard to plow through a couple of boxes in a single range session. Even easier if you're shooting a rifle.
    How many guns is too much?
    Guy goes into a sporting goods store at the start of deer season and buys two new rifles, one for him and one for his kid, as well as a handgun that he likes. Is that too much?
    The gun and ammo registry also reeks of "Show me your papers" tactics. The Left has always claimed, "We're not coming for your guns," but that seems to be what you're advocating here.

    Finally, gun buybacks don't solve the problem because the guns you buy back have a very low chance of ever being used in a crime. You end up paying $1,000 for antiques and heirlooms that have been sitting in a closet for years.
     
  2. cjericho

    cjericho Well-Known Member

    Wouldn't a flaming lefty be for gun control?
     
  3. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Who says he isn't?
     
  4. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Sure. Folks in the firearms businesses would have to be part of a panel that helps decide how much is too much.

    1000 .38 wadcutters for pistol practice probably shouldn't be flagged. 10000 in a single purchase likely should be.

    1000 armor-piercing rounds? Who knows? Yellow flag? Follow up if further purchase?

    We have to find some common sense settings for this, but legitimate users - say gun clubs or gun ranges, etc. - shouldn't be scared of a 5-minute visit from ATF.

    The gun show thing is mostly to curb straw sales and gray- and black-market parking lot cash deals.
     
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  5. CD Boogie

    CD Boogie Well-Known Member

    One of my best friends is similar, except he's not a lefty. We've been kids since childhood. We don't talk politics when we hang out bc his politics pisses me off and vice versa. We talk sports or family or TV shows or movies. He's on big-time antidepressants. He also goes to a gun range regularly and has several guns in his house. Every time a mass shooting happens, I cringe to see what he's gonna write on Facebook about how guns don't kill people, people kill people. And it wouldn't surprise me in the least if at some point he takes his own life with a gun. I just hope he doesn't kill anyone else.
     
  6. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    The point, which has been made repeatedly, is that debating fully automatic from the manufacturer versus converted using a bump stock is a distinction without a difference. The shooter had twelve semi-automatic rifles with bump stocks, which were fed by sixty to one hundred round magazines. Their rate of fire was approximately 600 rounds per minute, ten shots per second. It looks like a duck, it quacks like a duck, it waddles, and it kills people in wholesale lots whatever you call it.

    No, they were not illegally procured full autos. No, their firing mechanisms were not reworked - which does not require a machine shop, anyone who can read a book can do it with a cheap Harbor Freight wire welder, a grinder, a couple of files and a hacksaw. He used bumpstocks, which are a cheap, easy, and fairly reliable way to get around the gun law banning full auto weapons.

    The dead and their mourners don't care about the semantic differences very much.
     
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  7. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I go through this exact feeling.
     
  8. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    No chance.
     
  9. tapintoamerica

    tapintoamerica Well-Known Member

    Republicans want to avoid talking about guns and claim this is a mental health issue. And then they want to kill health care.
     
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  10. cjericho

    cjericho Well-Known Member

    well if he has a cache of weaponry guess his definition of gun control is different than most of the left's. unless by cache of weaponry you mean knives, swords, clubs etc. and not firearms.
     
  11. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

    Why wouldn't they simply specify certain types of guns - those most likely to be used in crimes - that are eligible to be bought back? A Civil War era musket? No thanks. An AR-15? Here's your $200 (or whatever they'd pay for it).
     
  12. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    It's so highly regulated that you could buy bumpstocks from Cabela's. I just checked, they are no longer on the website. Good for them.
     
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