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Tax cuts might be more important to them.

When McConnell was asked, he said it was too soon to talk about guns and changed the subject to tax cuts.

No matter how much money the GOP takes in from the NRA, it gets more from the multiple deep pocketed interests who want a tax cut, and the 2nd Amendment voters don't give much money other than what comes through the NRA.

OTOH, you could put a gun to their heads and they'd stick to pro-Second Amendment talking points.

 

And you’ve hit upon part of the left’s problem: it’s like they consider it a betrayal to even know enough to talk about, let alone own, guns.

It’s far past time to stop pontificating to other liberals and calling it a day. I’m stopping on the way home tonight and I’m buying “Guns & Ammo.”

 

Two things. You can bump shoot almost any automatic long gun by holding it loosely at your hip and letting the recoil rock it back and forth against a stiffly held trigger finger. That's where the bump stock came from, it used the same principle but made it easier and more reliable. Bumping one on your hip is inaccurate as hell, sort of like fanning the hammer on a revolver. You can do it, but it isn't very effective. Bump stocks obviously are. You can probably make them, but point two is that it really isn't all that difficult to alter the firing mechanism itself. It does not require a machine shop although that would obviously make it easier, but with a cheap welder and hand tools you can do it in a couple of hours.

Edit - Yeah, a 3D printer changes that. If an effective program to make bump stocks is out on the net, it's a matter of making a few plastic parts and finding a spring that's the right size and you're in business. I should have thought about that.

 

Good God man.

You know, it’s really easy to win an argument if you misconstrue what the other person has said.

 

Please adhere to SJ.com style.

 

The NRA got federal legislation through which makes it illegal for the federal government to have computerized records of gun ownership. Ostensibly this was so that Big Brother couldn't come and take your guns. Functionally, this means that if a crime is committed and law enforcement wants to know who bought it where and who bought it since, there must be a search of paper documents by hand.

Seriously.

 

Not my intent. You keep clinging to the "Full auto weapons are very controlled and highly illegal", which is absolutely true. The point is that the workaround is a bump stock, something that anyone can buy online for a couple of hundred dollars. That one really isn't about you personally, but about the practicality of considering full auto as illegal and unavailable.

I googled "bump stocks for sale" and once I got the results this was two clicks away:

Slidefire

 

Of all the kvetching liberal writers have done about gun control - I've read countless stories about the "gun show exception" - has a single one so much as mentioned "bump stocks" before yesterday?

There's a price to believing that details are a buncha bullshit.

And I absolutely implicate myself, as well. No one locked up my keyboard.

 

Yep. You need someone who understands an issue proposing policy, and it's a whole lot better if someone who understands the issue is the spokesman who articulates the policy. Democrats are derided and ignored because politicians say idiotic things out of complete ignorance about firearms, and when they do whatever they say is immediately put on ignore by the people they are trying to reach.

The single most obvious example is referring to a semi-automatic weapon as automatic. That's really unfair - when I was a kid, pistols were either revolvers or automatics (with the oddball single shot thrown in) and if you referred to a "Colt Automatic", it was assumed you meant a 1911 .45 semi-auto pistol. Now if you use that term and are not referring to a full auto M4 or AK you are assumed to be a moron, full stop, dead right there by the gun people. Anything that comes after is Charley Brown's mom going "Wah wah wah".

 

I just talked to my friend who is a cop. He said that most police are in favor of guns being registered, like cars.

 

From Slate, 2013

www.slate.com/blogs/crime/2013/01/07/slide_fire_this_simple_legal_add_on_lets_an_ar_15_fire_900_rounds_per_minute.html

Christian Science Monitor, 2013

'Bump fire' devices turn rifles into machine guns: How is that legal?

Daily News, 2013

www.nydailynews.com/news/national/add-ons-semiautomatic-rifles-fire-machine-guns-article-1.1258900

CNN, 2013

New rifle mimics machine gun's rapid fire -- and it's legal

CTPost, 2013

www.ctpost.com/local/article/Machine-gun-like-device-part-of-ban-4237269.php

 

Thanks.

This quote is chilling:

But for gun control advocates, including Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., bumpfire devices -- as they're known generically -- are a nightmare waiting to happen.