Shooting at Las Vegas casino

I'm not a lawyer. I'm sure there's some sort of case that could be made about a defective product. And the point of the lawsuit likely has as much to do with suing the company out of business via legal costs as it does achieving justice. But this one doesn't seem to pass the logic test.

The people suing are concertgoers who apparently were not injured and did not purchase a bump stock. So how can they have standing to sue the company for fraud (what were they defrauded of when they didn't do business with the company?), oppression (is that even a thing?) and malice toward them (how was the company malicious when it was a third party who committed the malicious act that they were not injured by?)

EDIT TO ADD: I think they'd have a better case against Paddock's estate. Of course that's not the point of the lawsuit.

 

Jack McCoy would say depraved indifference

 

Bump stocks don't kill people...

 

What estate? Between the dead, the wounded, and the lawyers, that's gone already.

 

Hence, why they're suing the company that's still in business and still has money.

 

Often, sites of tragedies become an area of mourning and remembrance. However, the room where Paddock executed his killing spree is unlikely to become that.

"From my opinion, the room disappears," Anthony Melchiorri, the host of Travel Channel's "Hotel Impossible," told Business Insider.

Melchiorri said that if he were running the hotel, he would reach out to victims and their families to see how he could best help them.

Then the room in question — which has been identified as Room 135 on the 32nd floor — would most likely no longer be available for guests to book. Melchiorri said he would go so far as to have the doors sealed up, removing any trace of the suite's existence.

'The room disappears': Here's what experts say Mandalay Bay will most likely do with the shooter's hotel suite

 

That's pretty standard. The lawyers sue everybody they can think of, and then it narrows down as the non-cases get thrown out of court. As above though - you have to have some standing to sue the manufacturer. I'm not sure that people who were scared, even traumatized by what they witnessed, will have a case against the bump stock manufacturer.

 

Right. It’s not a room where a notorious crime happened to take place in. Like the School Book Depository, the room itself was weaponized in service of a historically awful crime.

 

Has to happen. The alternative is to have people stay in the room. What is the value of that, other than the drop-in-the-pail profit?

 

Curiouser and curiouser:

Before the Las Vegas massacre began, a wounded Mandalay Bay hotel security guard called hotel officials to warn them about a gunman on the 32nd floor, an investigator told the Los Angeles Times on Tuesday.

But police did not arrive at the room where the guard had been shot until after Stephen Paddock had finished a 10-minute shooting spree on a crowd gathered below for a country music festival, the investigation now shows.

Casino guard alerted hotel to gunman before Las Vegas massacre began, police say

MGM Grand Corp is in a world of hurt, no?

 

How so?

 

If the security guard was shot before the shooting spree started and a gunman was called in by a security guard, hotel security's actions from that point forward are going to be dissected into tenth of a millimeter slices. In theory all of the casino hotels have effective security on call at all times, most of them ex-military or ex-LEOs. They'd better have a decent response time in terms of reaching out to the LVPD as well as getting their own internal security moving. Anything done physically is going to be documented on videotape, any calls are going to be timestamped, and whatever was said to the police was almost certainly recorded.

If they made a credible response they're fine... no one expected the massacre. OTOH, if there was a bunch of internal dithering and waffling about what to do, if intelligent moves were not called for in a timely manner, the hotel and the corporation which owns it is a fat target for lawsuits.