Shooting at Las Vegas casino

Come on. It's not like he was counting cards.

 

@doctorquant ^^^ what he said.

 

Didn't the previous update -- the one that said the security guard was shot before the massacre began -- say that the cops didn't even know a security guard had been shot until they encountered him when they came off of the elevator?

 

I read @TigerVols' conjecture as the hotel was responsible for the police response time (which is how the linked article lays it out). There's security guard call -> call to LVPD -> LVPD arrival. At some point in there, the hotel's responsibility has to end; hotels don't keep SWAT teams at the ready, and you can't expect run-of-the-mill security to storm a live shooter.

I don't doubt all sorts of legal theories will be trotted out there -- suburban lawyers gotta suburban lawyer amirite? -- but color me skeptical that MB will be on the hook for the police's response time.

 

Yeah, it's the 32nd floor of a crowded casino, with a big festival going on outside. Even cops can't teleport.

 

Yeah, the cops were at the stairwell at 10:24 pm. If the shooting started at 10:08, then that does not seem unreasonable.

 

Was he done shooting at 10:18? It was supposed to be 10 minutes, right?

So, did he stop before the the cops are even in the hallway?

 

It appears that way.

 

Doesn't make any sense.

 

It's plausible that he killed himself upon realizing what he had done. He had this compulsion, he acted on it, and the weight of it hit him once he realized it was no longer just a fantasy.

 

Las Vegas Shooting: Chaos at a Concert and a Frantic Search at Mandalay Bay

A Frantic Search for the Gunman
[The account below is based primarily on recordings of police communications, captured by Broadcastify.com and some individuals.]

At 10:08 p.m., an officer on the scene sounds the alarm. “We got shots fired,” he says. “Sounds like an automatic firearm.”

There is confusion over the next few minutes as officers arrive to scenes of death and mayhem.

“It’s coming from upstairs in the Mandalay Bay. Upstairs in the Mandalay Bay, halfway up I see the shots coming from Mandalay Bay, halfway up.”

“We have an active shooter — we have an active shooter inside the fairgrounds!”
At 10:12 p.m., the scale of the attack becomes more clear as an officer, using law-enforcement shorthand for gunshot wounds, reports in an agitated voice: “We have multiple casualties. G.S.W.’s in the medical tent. Multiple casualties!”

But the confusion over the source of the gunshots continues:

“Shots are coming from Gate 7.”

“We’re in front of Mandalay Bay. We’re trying to see where the shots are coming from. If anyone can advise if they’re coming from Mandalay.”

“It sounds like it’s either Mandalay or Luxor, we cannot tell.”

At 10:13 p.m., the manhunt begins to focus.

“It’s coming from like the 50th or 60th floor, north of the Mandalay Bay! It’s coming out a window.”

“We’re seeing local flashes in the middle of Mandalay Bay on the north side, kind of on the west tower but towards the center of the casino, like one of the middle floors.”
ven with pandemonium on the streets, one officer has clearly identified where the shooting is coming from:

“I’m inside the Mandalay Bay on the 31st floor, I can hear the automatic fire coming from one floor ahead, one floor above us.”

“Repeating, just be advised it is automatic fire. Fully automatic fire from an elevated position. Take cover.”

“That is correct, it’s fully automatic fire. I’m right below it.”

Outside, frustration grows.

“We’re taking gunfire. It’s going right over our heads. There’s debris coming over our heads. We’re pinned down here with a bunch of civilians.”

“We can’t worry about victims, we need to snuff the shooter before we have more victims! Anybody have eyes on him, on this shooter?”

“Hey officers, please stay calm, just relax, we’re trying to get this set up.”
By 10:20 p.m., there are some indications the shooting has stopped, although it is not clear.

“It’s been awhile since we’ve heard any shots. Does anybody have eyes on the shooter?”

A later transmission indicates that the shooting may have ended about 10:25.

At 10:24 p.m., officers report from the stairwell just outside the gunman’s door.

“I’m on the 32nd floor. The room is going to be 135.”

“It’s room 135 on the 32nd floor. I need the SWAT.”

At 10:28 p.m., as SWAT teams gather on the 32nd floor and the 29th floor, where there have been erroneous reports of another gunman, an officer says that a hotel security officer has been shot.
Over the next 50 minutes, officers secure the floor and ready several SWAT teams.

At about 11:20 p.m., they explode a door-breaching device, and enter to find the suspect dead of a self-inflicted gunshot wound. The man, who was later identified as Stephen Paddock, 64, had an arsenal of firearms in the room, officials said.

 

Well they were duped. They thought it was automatic fire.