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All-purpose open-wheel (F1, IRL) racing thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by crimsonace, Feb 19, 2007.

  1. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    It was an excellent crowd, having been there, and a great atmosphere. Certainly it helped that they shut down one section of grandstand, so the crowd was contained. But supposedly 60,000 is what I heard.

    Part of that was the novelty of being back at St. Louis, combined with it being in driving distance of Indianapolis. Seriously, nearly everyone I met was from Indiana. I joked with my friends that the whole series should run in Indiana. The Evansville 300. The Muncie Duels. The Gary 400, with the New York Times penning a piece expressing its surprise about the latter's existence.

    It was the most knowledgeable IndyCar crowd I have ever been a part of, as well.
     
  2. playthrough

    playthrough Moderator Staff Member

    Robin Miller had a piece on RACER that noted that 4 or 5 out of every 10 cars at Gateway had Indiana plates. I can see good and bad in that for the series' sake, but for that race it's understandable considering oval-starved Indiana fans. After the 500, the only ovals within an easy drive are Iowa and Gateway, and Gateway is half the drive from Indy plus it's new to most fans.
     
  3. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Detroit, too. We used to go to Chicago and Milwaukee. It sucks they aren't there anymore. We were overjoyed at St. Louis.
     
  4. murphyc

    murphyc Well-Known Member

    The first or second move by Perez? LOL. Second one was especially stupid. It'll be interesting to see who drives for Force India next year. Perez apparently brings his own money, which he will probably need at this point.
    Interesting the difference in reliability for the Red Bull teammates. And Alonso seemingly quitting was pretty telling. Apparently he's given McLaren an ultimatum: choose me or choose Honda.
     
  5. murphyc

    murphyc Well-Known Member

    Along those lines, it sure sounds like there is dissension in the Ganassi ranks. Two drivers parked in the past two races. Only one driver (Dixon) has really done anything consistently the last couple of years.
    I found the Gateway race highly disappointing. It reminds of the first Iowa race I covered in 2007: There was a lot of excitement and predictions of a great amount of passing, but it ended up being a one-line snoozer. Fortunately the racing got better in the years to come, so hopefully the same will happen in Gateway. It would be great to see a big crowd again next year, with good racing.
     
  6. PCLoadLetter

    PCLoadLetter Well-Known Member

    Yeah, not a good sign when you have to ask which move! (Second one was worse.)

    The Alonso situation is getting bad. I read pieces by two well-regarded F1 journalists yesterday that reached very different conclusions -- one said McLaren will very likely switch to Renault with Honda going to Toro Rosso (and quite possibly buying the team, if Red Bull drops the price), and the other said it's inevitable that McLaren will be stuck with Honda next year. It doesn't seen like Alonso is likely to stick around if Honda is still there.
     
  7. UPChip

    UPChip Well-Known Member

    I'm guessing the lack of a GP anywhere in Germany this year (or France, for that matter) has a lot to do with those figures, though Spa is about as classic an F1 venue as they come. Monza up next.
     
  8. TigerVols

    TigerVols Well-Known Member

    Nashville's not too far from Indy...whatever happened to that track?
     
  9. wicked

    wicked Well-Known Member

    Stopped holding races when it couldn't get a Cup date and around the same time the Dover folks closed down their other tracks, including Gateway. I think Nashville is still open for testing.
     
  10. murphyc

    murphyc Well-Known Member

    IndyCar needed either Newgarden or Castroneves to win the title last weekend, since they are two of the few drivers who register outside of the sport. Scott Dixon and Simon Pagenaud? Nope. Will Power? Cool name, but nope. It will be interesting to see if Penske does keep Castroneves in IndyCar to help bolster Chevy or not.
    Sounds like IndyCar will need a new title sponsor for 2019, not good.
    In F-1, quite the start last weekend. Kimi got a great start and was an innocent victim. I originally put most of the blame on Max, as he could have prevented the accident by backing off for a moment. But it's really on Vettel for making such an aggressive sweep. Biggest bummer was for Alonso. Yet another spectacular start, 7th to 3rd by the first corner and would have been battling Hamilton for the lead if he hadn't been tagged. Looks like Mercedes and Hamilton are in control.
     
  11. PCLoadLetter

    PCLoadLetter Well-Known Member

    Yeah, to me that was 100% on Vettel. That sweep across the track doesn't really work when there's a car there and it has nowhere to go. He didn't need to do it and it may cost him a shot at the championship.

    Funny -- that crazy start kind of destroyed the rest of the race. Virtually everyone with a chance to beat Hamilton was knocked out.
     
  12. maumann

    maumann Well-Known Member

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