SJ.com amnesty, or, the dumbest thing you've ever posted here

MisterCreosote · Nov 6, 2017

I’ve never posted anything dumb here.

doctorquant · Nov 6, 2017

MisterCreosote said: ↑

I’ve never posted anything dumb here.
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Me, too.

RickStain · Nov 6, 2017

Wasting so much time on internet message boards is a vice I would love to give up, but I probably never will.

jr/shotglass · Nov 6, 2017

Double Down · Nov 6, 2017

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I can't really tell you what makes Jason Whitlock relevant and Lupica irrelevant. I just know it when I see it -- sort of like Potter Stewart, I guess. A little bit is just Jason's understanding of culture, the language, the pulse of what's going on. Even when he's totally wrong, I feel like at least he's plugged in and informed. He's not faking it. Some of it is a generational thing. Relevance isn't entirely about youth, but some of it certainly is. Maybe we overstate Whitlock's importance here a bit because he hangs out and posts under his real name, and maybe he's more popular with sports writers than he is with readers (and that's he's, as you said, a regional phenomenon), but when I read Jason, he makes me think about things differently, whether I agree with him or not. Lupica and Albom no longer do that. It does beg the question though: What's are the standards for relevance? Popularity? Certainly that plays a part, but it's obviously not everything. To me, coming up with original ideas is far more important. There have been more popular artists that Bob Dylan throughout his career, but as I know you'd argue, he was looking at things differently and influencing people in ways that we wouldn't see for years. I'm not saying that Jason is Dylan by any stretch (as I said before, I think he's more like Chuck D in the grand scheme of things) but just because he works in Kansas City and no longer shows up on ESPN doesn't mean he's not relevant as an opinion-maker.

Part of Jason's strength comes from being intellectually honest, I think. If Jason wrote a book about the Summer of '98, and gushed over Sosa and McGwire, I want to believe he'd be out there talking about how he felt hoodwinked, and played like a fool. There is credibility in admitting you were duped, because people have long memories. To me, it seems like Lupica wants to pretend that book simply did not happen, and that he's been on the side of the righteous all along. It's sort of like Boom pointing out how Mike rips the Yankees for the extravagant spending and their poisonous owner, but put the Yankees in the WS, and suddenly he's all "The Yankees are October." Ryan sort of mockingly says that Whitlock is trying to paint himself as "the last honest man in the world," but that's not it. He was saying, at least in my opinion, that he wasn't going to participate in the charade that was the phony outrage over steroids (certainly not sitting next to someone who profited off of it), and that he didn't want to work for a website that was basically paying Scoop Jackson to advance the theory that it was cool to be ignorant, because it felt dishonest.

I'm not sure there is such a thing as the Voice of Black America anymore, and I doubt Jason is auditioning for it anyway because I'm not sure he believes in such a thing (I'll let him speak to that, though). I think he's trying to craft the Voice of Jason Whitlock, and I think he's doing a pretty decent job. It seems quite obvious to me that most of what he does here is done with a wink and a smile. It surprises me that people think he's really the most arrogant man alive, or that he thinks he's the greatest columnist in the world, simply because he enjoys toying with some of us. He did take a risk leaving ESPN the way he did, one that I very much admire, and for the sake of the industry, I hope it works out, and that he does well at AOL as proof that you don't have to take ESPN's money to matter. But as Ryan said, we'll see how it all plays out.
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BYH 2: Electric Boogaloo · Nov 6, 2017

CLOSE THE THREAD MODDY WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!!!

BYH 2: Electric Boogaloo · Nov 6, 2017

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Around here? Not sure. Alive and well? Indeed. We communicate now and then.
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Well tell him I said hello, Josh Beckett rocks and salary caps blow monkey chunks.

Killick · Nov 6, 2017

outofplace · Nov 6, 2017

BYH 2: Electric Boogaloo said: ↑

Well tell him I said hello, Josh Beckett rocks and salary caps blow monkey chunks.
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You're just mad because the Mets can't win even in a sport with the deck stacked for the major market teams.

Jake_Taylor · Nov 6, 2017

Anyone who has screwed up a Poin thread should report here immediately.

FileNotFound · Nov 6, 2017

During an NFL game day thread, I once posted that I’d want Vontaze Burfict on my team, even with his flaws. Maybe three plays later, he did something so egregiously stupid that I had to immediately retract said post.

Guy_Incognito · Nov 6, 2017

I defended Chris Christie.

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